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Old 08-10-2006, 10:20 PM
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How much of the Ti exhaust on the C5 ZO6 is actually Ti? The muffler and the pipes or just the muffler?

I my have need to get some welding done on the pipes before and after the muffler. What kind of metal are they made of?
Old 08-10-2006, 10:47 PM
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Everything from the joint just in front of the rear axle to the tips is Ti.
This includes the mufflers, 2 inlet pipes and 4 outlet pipes.
The midpipe, with the cats, is not Ti.

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The catback is all Ti, rest isn't.
Old 08-10-2006, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wrench
Everything from the joint just in front of the rear axle to the tips is Ti.
This includes the mufflers, 2 inlet pipes and 4 outlet pipes.
The midpipe, with the cats, is not Ti.

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So, is the rest of it exactly same as the stock C5? Any difference at all?
Old 08-11-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
So, is the rest of it exactly same as the stock C5? Any difference at all?

'02-up ZO6 midpipes have only one set of cats. I don't know how the standard 'vette is setup, but I thought they have two sets.
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'02-up ZO6 midpipes have only one set of cats. I don't know how the standard 'vette is setup, but I thought they have two sets.
Its true. C5 has 2 cats. If a Z06 has 1 set of cats, and is still legal to drive it, then why they didn't make C5 with the same standard? The more I learn, it seems to me that the basic Vette was "intended to be a grocery getter". Then what's all the hype about it being the "American legand", and a top notch car, or a true sports car. In fact, the stock suspension sucks so much, the exhaust, brakes, and PCM programing all need upgrades. No wonder we're always upgrading shocks, sway bars, springs, rotors, brakes, better flowing cat backs, hi flow cats....etc, etc. These are some of the things that should've come from the factory. (And I'm only talking about the BASIC things we do, not getting inside the engine or turbos). ...Other than its great looks, its a very basic car, a ture grocery getter, with stylish looks... which can be modified to a much better car. But that's exactly what ricers do too. I think what a Z06 is - that should have been the basic standard for C5 Corvette. After all, we supposed to be competing with world class sports cars. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Vette Fan, and its always been my dream car. But the more I learn, the more I wonder....

P.S: I just met my tuner yesterday. He said get a Hi stall TC, and gears, then it'll turn into the car you want it to be....and not "the grocery getter it is now"...

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Old 08-11-2006, 07:37 AM
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Wow, quite the rant.

If Chevy did such a crappy job, please name all the other "grocery getters" that can out perform a stock C-5 for the same money?

I am willing to bet the list will be blank.
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Its true. C5 has 2 cats. If a Z06 has 1 set of cats, and is still legal to drive it, then why they didn't make C5 with the same standard? The more I learn, it seems to me that the basic Vette was "intended to be a grocery getter". Then what's all the hype about it being the "American legand", and a top notch car, or a true sports car. In fact, the stock suspension sucks so much, the exhaust, brakes, and PCM programing all need upgrades. No wonder we're always upgrading shocks, sway bars, springs, rotors, brakes, better flowing cat backs, hi flow cats....etc, etc. These are some of the things that should've come from the factory. (And I'm only talking about the BASIC things we do, not getting inside the engine or turbos). ...Other than its great looks, its a very basic car, a ture grocery getter, with stylish looks... which can be modified to a much better car. But that's exactly what ricers do too. I think what a Z06 is - that should have been the basic standard for C5 Corvette. After all, we supposed to be competing with world class sports cars. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Vette Fan, and its always been my dream car. But the more I learn, the more I wonder....

P.S: I just met my tuner yesterday. He said get a Hi stall TC, and gears, then it'll turn into the car you want it to be....and not "the grocery getter it is now"...
WTF was that rant all about. For what it is the C5 is a phenemonal car. A lot of time and engineering went into what we are here for and talk about constantly, it's not a basic car by any means. Sure, a car is a car is a car, but name me one single grocery getter that is on par with the C5. And are all C5 owners who modify their cars ricers now?? The C5 HAD to be built with the inherent ability to be driven day to day without constant issues. Longevity would be the term I think. But if you think that makes it a grocery getter, then I fear that you're concentrating on your own expectations more so than enjoying what you have.
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I use my generic Corvette with Ti exhaust to "get groceries" all the time, especially if I need to get to the store and back real fast. My neighbor in her MiniVan hasn't beat me there yet.
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I use my track modded 450 hp Z06 to get groceries too... it's awesome. The big booty holds tons!
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
I use my track modded 450 hp Z06 to get groceries too... it's awesome. The big booty holds tons!
i use it as a golf kart as well carrying my clubs to and from the golf course.
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Vette Fan,
The more you learn about Corvettes the more you will understand that Corvettes have always been designed as mid-level marketable sports cars and detuned for the general public's consumption. The Corvette platform has always been a stable very well engineered starting point for those who want a more sporting car. If you take the standard C5, with shocks, sways, wheels and a few engine mods you have transformed a touring car into a track worhty car (ZO6). The sophisticated fully independent suspension and stiff hydroformed frame on all C5s is a far departure from a grocery getter. The base level 350 HP is also not grocery getter power. If the C5 was only offered as a ZO6 they would have reduced their marketability substantially. I am very pleased that the Corvette was designed with track types upgrades in mind yet sold mostly as a touring car. The numbers sold due to this strategy enable the resonably priced after market upgrades. Not to knock F-bodys (Camaros) but they fall more into your description of a grocery getter than a Corvette. The time I spent with an F-body welding in sub-frame stiffners and modding the suspension still left it in a totally diferent class than the C5. Enjoy your C5 for the simple, elegantly engineered, robust, easily modifiable platform it is.
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Originally Posted by Just Enough
Vette Fan,
The more you learn about Corvettes the more you will understand that Corvettes have always been designed as mid-level marketable sports cars and detuned for the general public's consumption. The Corvette platform has always been a stable very well engineered starting point for those who want a more sporting car. If you take the standard C5, with shocks, sways, wheels and a few engine mods you have transformed a touring car into a track worhty car (ZO6). The sophisticated fully independent suspension and stiff hydroformed frame on all C5s is a far departure from a grocery getter. The base level 350 HP is also not grocery getter power. If the C5 was only offered as a ZO6 they would have reduced their marketability substantially. I am very pleased that the Corvette was designed with track types upgrades in mind yet sold mostly as a touring car. The numbers sold due to this strategy enable the resonably priced after market upgrades. Not to knock F-bodys (Camaros) but they fall more into your description of a grocery getter than a Corvette. The time I spent with an F-body welding in sub-frame stiffners and modding the suspension still left it in a totally diferent class than the C5. Enjoy your C5 for the simple, elegantly engineered, robust, easily modifiable platform it is.
I couldn't have said it better myself
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Originally Posted by White99FRC
: I use it as a golf kart as well carrying my clubs to and from the golf course.
My mother-in-law fit fine in it, once!!
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Its true. C5 has 2 cats. If a Z06 has 1 set of cats, and is still legal to drive it, then why they didn't make C5 with the same standard?
They did. It was a basic design change in 2001...the same year that the Z06 arrived.
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Piling on??? 473whp blown grocery getter and golf cart here. Oh yeh, works for Home Depot too.
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Its true. C5 has 2 cats. If a Z06 has 1 set of cats, and is still legal to drive it, then why they didn't make C5 with the same standard? The more I learn, it seems to me that the basic Vette was "intended to be a grocery getter". Then what's all the hype about it being the "American legand", and a top notch car, or a true sports car. In fact, the stock suspension sucks so much, the exhaust, brakes, and PCM programing all need upgrades. No wonder we're always upgrading shocks, sway bars, springs, rotors, brakes, better flowing cat backs, hi flow cats....etc, etc. These are some of the things that should've come from the factory. (And I'm only talking about the BASIC things we do, not getting inside the engine or turbos). ...Other than its great looks, its a very basic car, a ture grocery getter, with stylish looks... which can be modified to a much better car. But that's exactly what ricers do too. I think what a Z06 is - that should have been the basic standard for C5 Corvette. After all, we supposed to be competing with world class sports cars. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Vette Fan, and its always been my dream car. But the more I learn, the more I wonder....

P.S: I just met my tuner yesterday. He said get a Hi stall TC, and gears, then it'll turn into the car you want it to be....and not "the grocery getter it is now"...
Low 13 second 1/4 stock. Grocery getter. VERY FEW cars we all wet our pants about from the 60s could do that..
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Default Grocery Getter!

My grocery getter is faster than the standard 4 door grocery getter.

My C5 is the best car I've ever had. I had a GTO vert, Dart GTS, 57 Chevys, Chevelle's, Acura Ledgand, BMW's and a bunch of others and NOTHING can hold a candle to my C5!!!!!

Thank you GM for making a great car (without too many warts) for a price that I can afford.

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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
Its true. C5 has 2 cats. If a Z06 has 1 set of cats, and is still legal to drive it, then why they didn't make C5 with the same standard? The more I learn, it seems to me that the basic Vette was "intended to be a grocery getter". Then what's all the hype about it being the "American legand", and a top notch car, or a true sports car. In fact, the stock suspension sucks so much, the exhaust, brakes, and PCM programing all need upgrades. No wonder we're always upgrading shocks, sway bars, springs, rotors, brakes, better flowing cat backs, hi flow cats....etc, etc. These are some of the things that should've come from the factory. (And I'm only talking about the BASIC things we do, not getting inside the engine or turbos). ...Other than its great looks, its a very basic car, a ture grocery getter, with stylish looks... which can be modified to a much better car. But that's exactly what ricers do too. I think what a Z06 is - that should have been the basic standard for C5 Corvette. After all, we supposed to be competing with world class sports cars. Don't get me wrong. I'm a Vette Fan, and its always been my dream car. But the more I learn, the more I wonder....

P.S: I just met my tuner yesterday. He said get a Hi stall TC, and gears, then it'll turn into the car you want it to be....and not "the grocery getter it is now"...

Dude, you didn't do your reseach prior to buying your Vette. You bought an A4 with 2.73 and I am guessing it has the softer base suspension. If Shear performance was your primary concern when you bought it, you should have went with a sportier model. Or, just mod the he!l out of it and stop crying.
I bought a 99FRC and it sticks to the road like a Tyco slot car. I replaced the stock runflats with Yokahamas three years ago and they ride tons better. My mods have been very basic and I couldn't be happier with what GM has done here.
The most important thing here though is that you stop whining. Nobody likes a whiner

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