low oil pressure at idle
#22
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Before you freak out and rip the engine apart change your oil, and put a GOOD filter on there like a WIX or a K&N. I personally use a K&N oil filter and get great oil pressure.
#23
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Yes use a WIX. And my 70k 2000 had a idle pressure of 19 at 225 oil temp, at 185 oil temp its at 30 but I am using Royal Purple oil (thins to water when hot) right now but I am switching to Castrol next. I have a 2k old sending unit.
#25
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Filters can become clogged and restrict flow. Other filters flow better than others, allowing higher pressure. I switched from a WIX to a K&N and got an extra 9-12psi while cold, and an extra 5-9 psi while hot.
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Our pumps are positive displacement. For every revolution the pump a fixed volume of oil is discharged. They do not pump pressure. Pressure is the result of restriction to that flow. If the filter has more resistance to flow the pressure between the filter and pump will be higher but the volume will be virtually be the same. If the filter plugs, the by-pass valve will open. I have no idea at what pressure that will happen. Oil temp, viscosity and RPM are the variables. If they are constant it doesen't make any difference what filter you have on or even have one the end pressure up where the sending unit is will be the same. Later! Frank
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I just put a 427 in my car and I am getting 55-65psi cold idle, 19-20psi hot idle, and 39-40psi cruising. The engine has less than 15k miles on it. Running Mobile 1 5-30. It has a Melling pump we just put on it as well.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
Went for a drive today, about 90 degrees in Columbus. Noticed at an idle the oil pressure dropped to 14. oil temp and coolant temp both about 225. Oil level is full. 87,000 miles.
Had this problem last summer when it actually dropped as low as 12. changed to 10w30. Looks like that didn't help much.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Had this problem last summer when it actually dropped as low as 12. changed to 10w30. Looks like that didn't help much.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Thicker Oil what a joke, this isn't 1960. another legend in his own mind living off his grandfathers advice.
#31
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Our pumps are positive displacement. For every revolution the pump a fixed volume of oil is discharged. They do not pump pressure. Pressure is the result of restriction to that flow. If the filter has more resistance to flow the pressure between the filter and pump will be higher but the volume will be virtually be the same. If the filter plugs, the by-pass valve will open. I have no idea at what pressure that will happen. Oil temp, viscosity and RPM are the variables. If they are constant it doesen't make any difference what filter you have on or even have one the end pressure up where the sending unit is will be the same. Later! Frank
Only time the restrictiveness of any oil filter can be seen is when the oil pump is in pressure relief mode. Otherwise, as you said due to the positive displacement oil pump, all the volume out of the pump must be pushed through the filter & engine. If you really want to know if one filter is more restrictive than the other, then take the engine up to near redline and hold it there for 30 sec and see what the max oil pressure is. Do this with the same oil at the same temperature (per DIC readout values).
I've used 4 different brands of filters on my '02 Z06, and I get the exact same oil pressure at the same RPM and oil temps (with the same oil, Mobil 1 5W-30) with all of those oil filters. Using the tachometer and the DIC info (oil pressure and oil temperature) to verify this.
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No Oil Pressure
While the subject is "oil pressure" here is MY problem. I have a 2001 Z06 with some pretty extensive engine mods(bought it that way). Have had it for almost 3 years now. Original mileage is around 73,000. Anyway, oil pressure has always been good, no lower than 28psi at hot idle. A week or so ago I drove it out of town to meet someone for some car parts. I'm notorious for watching gauges and everything was business as usual. Pulled up to meet the guy, car idled normally, oil pressure was normal, shut the engine off. About 20 minutes later, I got in the car to head home and cranked the engine, the chime sounded and the information display said "no oil pressure" and gauge was at 0 ....Shut the engine off, got out, looked under the car, no oil leak and checked the oil. Level was right at 1/2 a quart low, but I added a quart anyway. Got back in the car, cranked it again and had top end ticking(no oil pressure), immediately shut it off and had a friend trailer it home.........Anyone know of any TSBs on this or had similar problems? Thanks, Curt
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About 20 minutes later, I got in the car to head home and cranked the engine, the chime sounded and the information display said "no oil pressure" and gauge was at 0 ....Shut the engine off, got out, looked under the car, no oil leak and checked the oil. Level was right at 1/2 a quart low, but I added a quart anyway. Got back in the car, cranked it again and had top end ticking(no oil pressure), immediately shut it off and had a friend trailer it home.........Anyone know of any TSBs on this or had similar problems? Thanks, Curt
Failure of O-ring between oil pick-up and oil pump.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...e#.UUdNvHfX58E
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Sounds like you have no oil pressure ... verses just a failed pressure sensor, etc. Need to put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on the engine and verify no oil pressure. If so, then obviously something associated with the oil pump has failed. No TSBs that I've seen cover this. Only one close it this one.
Failure of O-ring between oil pick-up and oil pump.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...e#.UUdNvHfX58E
Failure of O-ring between oil pick-up and oil pump.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...e#.UUdNvHfX58E
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First I think I would change back to 5w-30 synthetic. Then here is the pressures right out of the manual for a 1997. Possibly they may be different for different years. maybe someone could chime in for your year. I also just needed to install a new oil pressure sensor from Autozone, it was a Brass Borg-Warner one and noticed my pressure were slightly different then when the original GM sensor was in.
6.0 psig at 1000 RPM
18.0 psig at 2000 RPM
24.0 psig at 4000 RPM
6.0 psig at 1000 RPM
18.0 psig at 2000 RPM
24.0 psig at 4000 RPM