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Old 03-07-2010, 10:43 AM
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I am tring to determine if I have a battery drain issue, so I read up about the multimeter test and hooked my meter up in series to the negative side.

With the multimeter set on 20m for Amps it reads 0.1 for a minute or two then goes to sleep and holds at 0.03. It does this with or without the fuses for Bose or fuses 3 and 4 for seats.

I believe 0.03 means 30milliamps, but I am confused. If the range is up to 20m (milliamps), how can the reading be 30? or even 100?

FYI, i drive my car about once every two weeks and put it on my CTEK charger (highly recommended) one night a week.

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I am tring to determine if I have a battery drain issue, so I read up about the multimeter test and hooked my meter up in series to the negative side.

With the multimeter set on 20m for Amps it reads 0.1 for a minute or two then goes to sleep and holds at 0.03. It does this with or without the fuses for Bose or fuses 3 and 4 for seats.

I believe 0.03 means 30milliamps, but I am confused. If the range is up to 20m (milliamps), how can the reading be 30? or even 100?

FYI, i drive my car about once every two weeks and put it on my CTEK charger (highly recommended) one night a week.
post a pic of your meter
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This is my meter.
I used it on the 20m A range as shown, and on the 10A connector

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Not sure if the 20m means the 20 milliamp scale or not. Assuming it does then .1 would be 1000 micro amps and .03 would be 300 micro amps. You can verify the scale if you have the user's manual. If what I say is true then you should be able to set the meter on the 2000 micro amp scale and see readings of 1000 and 300.

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Originally Posted by banner1
This is my meter.
I used it on the 20m A range as shown, and on the 10A connector

Looks to me like you should be using the Common and the middle connection (mA) if you are on the 20m setting. If its like my meter the 10A connector is ONLY for the 10A scale. And yes that is the 10 milliamp scale. You have:
10 Amp
200 milliamp
20 milliamp
2000 microamp
200 microamp

Just remember when measuring current (amps) always start on the largest scale you have and work your way down, if you use a scale that is lower than the current being drawn it can/will blow the internal fuse in the meter! The 10A scale is fused with a 10 Amp fuse, the other scales are probably fused with a 200 milliamp fuse to cover that whole range...read the manual to know for sure.

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I pulled some new readings as requested. These are for the 10A connector:
200u 0.00
2000u 000
20m 0.03
200m 0.3
10A 0.03

When I used the middle connector, i would not hear the click in the headlight area, and all the readings would show as 1 for out of range. I am pretty sure this is a really cheap meter, and I do not have the manual for it.
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Originally Posted by warpster
Looks to me like you should be using the Common and the middle connection (mA) if you are on the 20m setting. If its like my meter the 10A connector is ONLY for the 10A scale............
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Originally Posted by banner1
I pulled some new readings as requested. These are for the 10A connector:
200u 0.00
2000u 000
20m 0.03
200m 0.3
10A 0.03

When I used the middle connector, i would not hear the click in the headlight area, and all the readings would show as 1 for out of range. I am pretty sure this is a really cheap meter, and I do not have the manual for it.
Based on this information, it looks to me that you are getting a correct reading (on the 10A scale) of 300 milliamps. The others are out of range as you said.
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Thanks for the help on the meter, that 300 miliamps would explain why my battery is draining down fast while it sits.

Tomorrow, I will start pulling fuses and try to find the drain.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Not sure if the 20m means the 20 milliamp scale or not. Assuming it does then .1 would be 1000 micro amps and .03 would be 300 micro amps. You can verify the scale if you have the user's manual. If what I say is true then you should be able to set the meter on the 2000 micro amp scale and see readings of 1000 and 300.

Bill
Bill,
the small "m" is milli i.e. mA = milliamps. What looks like a backwards "y" is micro.
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Originally Posted by banner1
Thanks for the help on the meter, that 300 miliamps would explain why my battery is draining down fast while it sits.

Tomorrow, I will start pulling fuses and try to find the drain.
I'm confused why you do not have the red lead plugged into the 10amp jack, and use the 10 amp scale.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
I'm confused why you do not have the red lead plugged into the 10amp jack, and use the 10 amp scale.
I think warpster and me agree.
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With the range set on 10A, I got the 0.03 reading which we concluded is 300ma.

I just needed some help understanding how to read the ranges since I did not have the manual.

Thanks again,

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With the range set on 10A, I got the 0.03 reading which we concluded is 300ma.
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0.03, is 3 one hundreths of one amp. That is 30MA, not 300 MA.
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Originally Posted by banner1
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With the range set on 10A, I got the 0.03 reading which we concluded is 300ma.
Hmmm...ok....I'm not sure who "we" is comprised of....but .03 amps is not equal to 300mA..rather...it's 30mA.
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Originally Posted by byronhunter
With the range set on 10A, I got the 0.03 reading which we concluded is 300ma.
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0.03, is 3 one hundreths of one amp. That is 30MA, not 300 MA.
hehehe...beat me by 1 minute....
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I thought it was 300ma since it was out of range when using the middle terminal for the red cord.

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Originally Posted by byronhunter
With the range set on 10A, I got the 0.03 reading which we concluded is 300ma.
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0.03, is 3 one hundreths of one amp. That is 30MA, not 300 MA.
Byron to the rescue!

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Based on this information, it looks to me that you are getting a correct reading (on the 10A scale) of 300 milliamps. The others are out of range as you said.
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Originally Posted by banner1
This is what gave me the false confidence in 300ma
Yup, my thinking cap was not on straight and I had the decimal point moved too far in one direction.


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