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Old 10-25-2013, 01:01 PM
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Was curious how much space is between the front pulley and radiator on a C5 or C6?

I am designing an adapter to install the Toyota 1GZ v12 to a Corvette torque tube/6 speed and install in the Porsche 928. The V12 is actually smaller/lighter than the Porsche V8. I may want to do this to a C5 myself...

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...spd-928-a.html
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Wow I wanna see this! I am guessing it is around 10 inches between the crank an the radiator, do remember the abs unit and the steering rack! Either way this would be kinda cool lookin!
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Hmmm...the V12 is only 5 inches longer than the LS motor....
I already mated the Vette torque tube and trans to the 928 engine...it fixed all the Porsche trans problems.

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sounds like a fun project
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Originally Posted by xschop
Was curious how much space is between the front pulley and radiator on a C5 or C6?

I am designing an adapter to install the Toyota 1GZ v12 to a Corvette torque tube/6 speed and install in the Porsche 928. The V12 is actually smaller/lighter than the Porsche V8. I may want to do this to a C5 myself...

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...spd-928-a.html

The Mercedes 6.2 V12 Biturbo and Tranny from the 65 AMG would be a much better swap.
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Originally Posted by All_Motor_C5LS6
The Mercedes 6.2 V12 Biturbo and Tranny from the 65 AMG would be a much better swap.
But we need the C5 Torque tube/trans as the 928 trans sets in the back for perfect 50/50 weight balance.
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The rack goes right across the front of the damper with likely <1" of clearance. You'd have to relocate the rack or raise the engine if it's longer.You might be able to push the engine a little further back under the cowl if it's shorter/narrower then the LS1.
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Totally possible. Check out this thread. It will give you an idea of how much room can be created.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/c5-for...-and-pics.html
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Thanks for the link, that's actually more space than I had left in the 944 LS swap. What is the tower-to-tower width on the C5?
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C5 and C6 do not have shock TOWERS as we have transvers leaf springs. The shock mounts are on the outside of the frame.

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Unless you are stuck with that motor, wouldn't it be much simpler, lighter, cheaper, faster, better, to just use a built LS motor?

I almost forgot to add; more fuel efficient, compact, quieter.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
Unless you are stuck with that motor, wouldn't it be much simpler, lighter, cheaper, faster, better, to just use a built LS motor?

I almost forgot to add; more fuel efficient, compact, quieter.
What's the point exactly of this Frankenstein?
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Originally Posted by 3boystoys
What's the point exactly of this Frankenstein?
Sometimes you just have to do something different.
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"Because We Can" is Piranha Brothers motto. Even sticking Z06 6-pots on a Porsche and the purists cry foul. I like the LS engine I have a cammed LS1 in a 928 now. They are great motors and inexpensive to mod. I think my last swap had the most manufacturer's parts to ever conglomerate on a P-car lol. They were really stumped with the Lexus brakes and Mazda control arms, let alone the GM powerplant.

I guess i should have asked what is the widest distance between the top rails in a C5. I see a C5 with blown motor from time to time around OKC area.
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If your V-12 is 60 deg. it should be fine. I assume DOHC, and the wide heads these require?
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http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...-engine-46391/




https://www.corvetteforum.com/articl...v12-ls-engine/

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/***...-v12-494383763


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I just looked at my car. There is just tons of room once you throw away the hood and hack out the firewall so you can raise the front of the engine about 6" to clear the rack....
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Here's one for the Gurus.... Does anyone know what the FACTORY tech spec dimension is for the C5 torque tube input shaft centerline relation to the 2 dowel pin centerlines ?

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Old 11-05-2013, 11:21 AM
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It fits

Any V6,V8, V10, V12 Toyota engine that uses the A340 trans will now bolt right up to the Vette 6speed



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