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Old 05-02-2015, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RC000E
If you redline third then slam to 2nd instead of 4th, or downshift 5th to 2nd instead of 4th, no rev limiter is stopping anything...valve float will occur...piston contact will occur.
He did not leave the parking lot. He might have been putting it on 3 instead of 1st went take off.
Old 05-02-2015, 04:38 PM
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I would be checking that parking lot for new rubber on the ground. Maybe rubber on the ground that you would see at the race track. Possibly a 100 foot set of rubber tracks. ��
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I would be checking that parking lot for new rubber on the ground. Maybe rubber on the ground that you would see at the race track. Possibly a 100 foot set of rubber tracks. ��
100 foot .....he'll I'm not that good
Old 05-02-2015, 04:51 PM
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RC000E said it: it had to happen on downshift since rev limiter protects you on the way up. Probably tried to go from 4th to 3rd and got 1st instead.

This has happened on many BMWs and is probably leading to the demise of the manual trans by even longtime champions of them.

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Just to be clear?

So after causing enough damage to need the motor torn down, you can't get a straight answer out of him as to what happened? Didn't ask? You're buying the answer that he "doesn't know"?





"Aw shucks dad, I was just idling around the lot and it dropped a valve..."


For the record. I would have far more problem with having my intelligence insulted and being bs'ed about it than I would about the broken car.
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Just to be clear?

So after causing enough damage to need the motor torn down, you can't get a straight answer out of him as to what happened? Didn't ask? You're buying the answer that he "doesn't know"?





"Aw shucks dad, I was just idling around the lot and it dropped a valve..."


For the record. I would have far more problem with having my intelligence insulted and being bs'ed about it than I would about the broken car.
I know my son and he said he did not leave the parking lot or over-revved the engine. I believe that he took off on 3rd and gave it some gas on take off and the car stalled. I believe the engine might rotated backward enough to cause this???
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Did he get the job?
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my 16 year old just yesterday asked for my keys to to grab a bite to eat, made me think back to when I asked my dad for key and got turned down so I gave them to him but made him stay on face time with me the hole time. it worked out well but I was nervous giving up the key to the zo6 to him but it was not so much about my car as it was his safety

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Did he get the job?
Yes he did.
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Originally Posted by Wikedc5
He did not leave the parking lot. He might have been putting it on 3 instead of 1st went take off.
Then the engine would bog....at least under NORMAL circumstances. How the hell big is this parking lot, that you could wind out ANY gear???






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Yes he did.
GOOD!! Now he can pay for the carnage.....
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Then the engine would bog....at least under NORMAL circumstances. How the hell big is this parking lot, that you could wind out ANY gear???








GOOD!! Now he can pay for the carnage.....
I'm not blaming him for it since he was learning. The hospital lot is not big at all. The longest straightaway is about 60 yards. I'm sure that what did it was the stalling and possibly using the wrong gear. The bright note is that the car had @256000 miles so although the car felt in tiptop condition this needed to be done and it's coming out with new Horses.
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Originally Posted by Stroker87
my 16 year old just yesterday asked for my keys to to grab a bite to eat, made me think back to when I asked my dad for key and got turned down so I gave them to him but made him stay on face time with me the hole time. it worked out well but I was nervous giving up the key to the zo6 to him but it was not so much about my car as it was his safety
I came from humble background and never came closed to driving an exotic car. But it would have been great. Yes I worry about giving them a car with excessive amount of power. But they know this is my pride & joy so they treat it that way. But, Dare I say it's just a car.
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Maybe it just got nice and hot while running slow in the parking lot and the seat dropped. Wouldn't be the first time a LS engine just dropped a valve seat.
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Originally Posted by Wikedc5
I'm not blaming him for it since he was learning. The hospital lot is not big at all. The longest straightaway is about 60 yards. I'm sure that what did it was the stalling and possibly using the wrong gear. The bright note is that the car had @256000 miles so although the car felt in tiptop condition this needed to be done and it's coming out with new Horses.
I bet it was bigger than this area and I got 88 feet in first gear.

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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
I bet it was bigger than this area and I got 88 feet in first gear.



But the $64,000 question, Bill...........Did you drop a valve while doing this??


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Originally Posted by Wikedc5
I know my son and he said he did not leave the parking lot or over-revved the engine. I believe that he took off on 3rd and gave it some gas on take off and the car stalled. I believe the engine might rotated backward enough to cause this???
Not sure I could buy that. Why would the valve hit, regardless of engine direction. All it knows is what the pushrod does, go up and down. Rotation has nothing to do with it. (Unless your timing chain has about a foot of slop in it.)

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Might have been cheaper to have bought an old chevy truck and let him learn to drive a stick in it....
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Originally Posted by Wikedc5
And yes it's at the machine shop. Hope to get 35-40 new horses.
I am curious to see what the surfaces of the cam and lifter to that specific value looks like.
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Originally Posted by Wikedc5
I know my son and he said he did not leave the parking lot or over-revved the engine. I believe that he took off on 3rd and gave it some gas on take off and the car stalled. I believe the engine might rotated backward enough to cause this???

No way this happens like this. Only way short of breaking a timing chain is over-revving my missing a shift.


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