'01+ EBCM in 97-00 C5
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I did this swap. From 99 to 2001 EBTCM+BPMV. Later I'll write about this with pictures.
You need:
1) EBTCM+PUMP 2001+
2) Conector
3) Three brake lines. Both front and one of the rear (presumably right already forgot). I swaped only front ones. About rear I just cut it, flared and lengthened it with an Goodridge armored hose.
4) 2001+ SWPS.
New PCM not needed. Now installed 2001 BCM. But I have both of. So can check it.
You need:
1) EBTCM+PUMP 2001+
2) Conector
3) Three brake lines. Both front and one of the rear (presumably right already forgot). I swaped only front ones. About rear I just cut it, flared and lengthened it with an Goodridge armored hose.
4) 2001+ SWPS.
New PCM not needed. Now installed 2001 BCM. But I have both of. So can check it.
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'01+ EBCM in 97-00 C5
. Yesterday I planed to check will 2001 EBCM work with 99 BCM. I confused the 2001 BCM with a 99. And right now installed 99 BCM and it WORKS. Then I tried to replace 99 BCM with 01. Security light is flashing and nothing happens. Starter doesn't throttling.
My main car is 99 hardtop poor packaging. Two years ago I bought another one whole 2001 Vette. It was a convertible with all options. . Car was partly incomplete. Custom cleared as parts not a whole car. Not a criminal but not available to drive for law reasons. It wasn't cheap. But it was a great warranty to complete a EBCM swap anyway.
Also I swaped telescopic column but not adjust it yet. I need a Tech 2 and gonna buy a Chinese clone. Sport seats and HUD was swapped to.
I know that 97-2000 Vette's brake issue is a butt hurt for lots of people. I'm working a lot so cannot spend many time with my Vette. But I promise that someday it will write a full topic about solvation of the problem
My main car is 99 hardtop poor packaging. Two years ago I bought another one whole 2001 Vette. It was a convertible with all options. . Car was partly incomplete. Custom cleared as parts not a whole car. Not a criminal but not available to drive for law reasons. It wasn't cheap. But it was a great warranty to complete a EBCM swap anyway.
Also I swaped telescopic column but not adjust it yet. I need a Tech 2 and gonna buy a Chinese clone. Sport seats and HUD was swapped to.
I know that 97-2000 Vette's brake issue is a butt hurt for lots of people. I'm working a lot so cannot spend many time with my Vette. But I promise that someday it will write a full topic about solvation of the problem
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No, I didn't. Thank you for info. Telescopic column is a 01+ option so I need later model BCM anyway.
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Something tells me he's got a lot of issues now and some he doesn't know about yet with this "conversion" . I wouldn't get too excited till he got it on the road for a while to see what the system actually does. I'm betting the "butt hurt" is far from over.
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I remember your thread but it just died.
Did you drive the car yet?
If no, did it start and not give any errors or light the ABS or traction lights?
If no errors or lights, could you turn the traction control off and back on with the button?
Did you try holding the button for 5 seconds to see if the car would go into competition mode?
I remember your thread but it just died.
Did you drive the car yet?
If no, did it start and not give any errors or light the ABS or traction lights?
If no errors or lights, could you turn the traction control off and back on with the button?
Did you try holding the button for 5 seconds to see if the car would go into competition mode?
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Thread died. But idea never.
Yes I drive it. Now I DIY some body works (flared fenders, hood with blister for Magnacharger), and I have no insurance until the car is fully completed. So now the car is without fenders and hood. But twice or bit more a weak I doing a test-drive at a sduburb road without police.
Yes.It has only traction light. Eror is C1288. I am 99% sure that the reason is wrong installation of a used SWPS from salvaged car. And when the re-calibration will be done everything will be OK.
I didn't all of this. Now cabin is disassembled. I'll try to do it after SWPS issues will be solved.
Traction is enable. ABS is enable too.
Please wait a bit. A weak ago I had a new fault. C1255 H C. That is a WSS. So when I'm driving faster than 20mph lights are on. ABS does not have time to work. But traction have it. So I cannot show you full functionality.
Please give me a time. Solvation of WSS and SWPS errors is needed. After that I could show you a video.
Also I need a remind of all wire connection. Which wire from old EBCM going to new EBCM.
Did you drive the car yet?
If no, did it start and not give any errors or light the ABS or traction lights?
If no errors or lights, could you turn the traction control off and back on with the button?
Did you try holding the button for 5 seconds to see if the car would go into competition mode?
Did you try holding the button for 5 seconds to see if the car would go into competition mode?
Traction is enable. ABS is enable too.
Please wait a bit. A weak ago I had a new fault. C1255 H C. That is a WSS. So when I'm driving faster than 20mph lights are on. ABS does not have time to work. But traction have it. So I cannot show you full functionality.
Please give me a time. Solvation of WSS and SWPS errors is needed. After that I could show you a video.
Also I need a remind of all wire connection. Which wire from old EBCM going to new EBCM.
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Thread died. But idea never.
Yes I drive it. Now I DIY some body works (flared fenders, hood with blister for Magnacharger), and I have no insurance until the car is fully completed. So now the car is without fenders and hood. But twice or bit more a weak I doing a test-drive at a sduburb road without police.
Yes.It has only traction light. Eror is C1288. I am 99% sure that the reason is wrong installation of a used SWPS from salvaged car. And when the re-calibration will be done everything will be OK.
I didn't all of this. Now cabin is disassembled. I'll try to do it after SWPS issues will be solved.
Traction is enable. ABS is enable too.
Please wait a bit. A weak ago I had a new fault. C1255 H C. That is a WSS. So when I'm driving faster than 20mph lights are on. ABS does not have time to work. But traction have it. So I cannot show you full functionality.
Please give me a time. Solvation of WSS and SWPS errors is needed. After that I could show you a video.
Also I need a remind of all wire connection. Which wire from old EBCM going to new EBCM.
Yes I drive it. Now I DIY some body works (flared fenders, hood with blister for Magnacharger), and I have no insurance until the car is fully completed. So now the car is without fenders and hood. But twice or bit more a weak I doing a test-drive at a sduburb road without police.
Yes.It has only traction light. Eror is C1288. I am 99% sure that the reason is wrong installation of a used SWPS from salvaged car. And when the re-calibration will be done everything will be OK.
I didn't all of this. Now cabin is disassembled. I'll try to do it after SWPS issues will be solved.
Traction is enable. ABS is enable too.
Please wait a bit. A weak ago I had a new fault. C1255 H C. That is a WSS. So when I'm driving faster than 20mph lights are on. ABS does not have time to work. But traction have it. So I cannot show you full functionality.
Please give me a time. Solvation of WSS and SWPS errors is needed. After that I could show you a video.
Also I need a remind of all wire connection. Which wire from old EBCM going to new EBCM.
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It sounds like you are close.
The SWPS and wheel sensors are direct wired to the EBCM so there should be no reason the car model year affects them working.
I'm not sure what recalibration you are expecting to do for the SWPS though?
The SWPS and wheel sensors are direct wired to the EBCM so there should be no reason the car model year affects them working.
I'm not sure what recalibration you are expecting to do for the SWPS though?
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But used one requires proper installation (calibration). A Tech2 is needed, but people figured out how to do it using just a voltmeter.
I didn't know that when instaled SWPS from salvaged car.
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Briefly, absolutely new sensor "from box" is already calibrated. It has a special pin for this.
But used one requires proper installation (calibration). A Tech2 is needed, but people figured out how to do it using just a voltmeter.
I didn't know that when instaled SWPS from salvaged car.
But used one requires proper installation (calibration). A Tech2 is needed, but people figured out how to do it using just a voltmeter.
I didn't know that when instaled SWPS from salvaged car.
OK so what year is the swps from? its a '01+ right? the pre '01 swps is discontinued. And yeah if the locking pin isn't installed you will need to calibrate it to centre position.
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I doubt the voltmeter calibration, which is really centering the sensor and not a calibration at all, will work on that sensor. The older sensors had an analog voltage you set to 2.5V or so to center them. The newer style doesn't have that output.
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You found information that said to measure the DC voltage, right? Well, the analog DC voltage output doesn't exist on a 2001-2004 sensor so that method won't work on those sensors. All that exists are the phase A and B signals, which are basically digital on-off signals.
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You found information that said to measure the DC voltage, right? Well, the analog DC voltage output doesn't exist on a 2001-2004 sensor so that method won't work on those sensors. All that exists are the phase A and B signals, which are basically digital on-off signals.
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