[Z06] Vredestein Sessanta tires - anyone heard about these ?
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Okay, I actually read these whole thread and I have to say I'm convinced to give these tires a try. Swapping out the F1's this week. We'll see how they stand up to the HP. Spirited launch from a stoplight in this beast is a bit too tough right now. I actually got smoked 0-60 the other day by a F250 crew cab diesel 4x4. On one hand, I never hooked up. But I have to say, that SOB was smoking ALL FOUR tires half way to 60 and he must have been pushing 800 to 1,000 HP. Still... I've never been so embarrassed. Time for new tires and these sound like the ones. :o
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Would you guys say these tires will hook up in a straight line as good or better than Nitto Drags? I would think not but who knows!
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Smoked by a Diesel
The worst part was that he still had me by 2 car lengths at 60. They'll be talking about that at their local diesel truck club for the next 10 years. I guess for the sake of all of us, I have to get some of these tires and hunt him down. .
I'll order them this week.
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"Trazano" same as Vredestein Sessanta's???
Anyone familiar with Trazono tires? I searched all the forums and found nothing. Someone just mentioned in a PM to me that these were the same tires as the Vredestein Sessanta. I looked online and could not find any parent company or business relationship whatsoever to Vredestein. However, look at the picture of the tread. It certainly looks like they are from the same mould as the Vredestrein Sessanta.
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
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http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
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Anyone familiar with Trazono tires? I searched all the forums and found nothing. Someone just mentioned in a PM to me that these were the same tires as the Vredestein Sessanta. I looked online and could not find any parent company or business relationship whatsoever to Vredestein. However, look at the picture of the tread. It certainly looks like they are from the same mould as the Vredestrein Sessanta.
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
MadDog
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
MadDog
I ordered the 265-30-19's from them(discountedwheelwarehouse) for my 19/20 combo I just bought. Sorry I didn't see they are not showing any Z06 size on the site. I am sure if you call them they will have them or can get them. The sales man just called me actually today since I placed my order online to tell me they are shipping out Vredestein's instead of Trazano's like the site says. He wanted to be sure I would be OK with that. I said "OK, no problem" and that was it... SMOKIN' DEAL!
I got my 19/20 combo tires for under $750 shipped!!!
The rears I got from a price mistake on this website 295-25-20's Vredestein Sessanta's for $180 each!!! Mine shipped already so I will post it now for others to jump on...
http://www.performanceplustire.com/p...-20#prodAnchor
I have seen from other forums good reviews of that site too in reguards to CS and such. I think it was on LS1tech or maybe camaroz28
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Anyone familiar with Trazono tires? I searched all the forums and found nothing. Someone just mentioned in a PM to me that these were the same tires as the Vredestein Sessanta. I looked online and could not find any parent company or business relationship whatsoever to Vredestein. However, look at the picture of the tread. It certainly looks like they are from the same mould as the Vredestrein Sessanta.
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
MadDog
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse....ShowLarge=True
The prices are good, but it appears they don't have Vette sizes, at least on this site.
MadDog
It almost seems like Trozano might just be the company that sells the tire, or perhaps a second-hand distributor or something. I'd be curious to find out if there is more to the story.
Also remember that the Vreds don't come in Vette sizes in the first place (well, partly... on a Z06). they don't have 265/40-17's yet. So you can get stock Z06 rear sizes but for fronts you'll end up with 275's. I have that setup and it's amazing!
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That's strange MadDogZ06. Sure does look like the same tire, tread pattern anyway...
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Wow, that is weird. That is most DEFINITELY a Vredestein Sessanta. You can see both the "Ultrac" and the "Sessanta" as well as the vredestein logo itself on the sidewall on that picture in the link.
It almost seems like Trozano might just be the company that sells the tire, or perhaps a second-hand distributor or something. I'd be curious to find out if there is more to the story.
Also remember that the Vreds don't come in Vette sizes in the first place (well, partly... on a Z06). they don't have 265/40-17's yet. So you can get stock Z06 rear sizes but for fronts you'll end up with 275's. I have that setup and it's amazing!
It almost seems like Trozano might just be the company that sells the tire, or perhaps a second-hand distributor or something. I'd be curious to find out if there is more to the story.
Also remember that the Vreds don't come in Vette sizes in the first place (well, partly... on a Z06). they don't have 265/40-17's yet. So you can get stock Z06 rear sizes but for fronts you'll end up with 275's. I have that setup and it's amazing!
The call today from the saleman just double checking my web order that I would be OK with Vredestein's confirmed that....
Here is a pic from the site:
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trazano and Vredestein are somehow related.
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i think thats just a mistake on the part of the website. if you search for trazano tires elsewhere you can see that they are actually different tires.
did nobody think to double check that?
they certainly don't show up on the companies website.
http://www.trazano.com/
did nobody think to double check that?
they certainly don't show up on the companies website.
http://www.trazano.com/
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Handling???
Of course, it seems that these tires are getting great reviews. There has not been too much said about how they handle the turns or for road-racing. Who has some thoughts or experience on this.
Also, has anyone considered the weight of these tires? That is one thing I liked so much about the PS2 is that they were much lighter than the F1 Supercars. 6 lbs lighter on each side of the rear and if I remember correctly, 3 or 4 lbs lighter on each front side.
Thoughts???
Also, has anyone considered the weight of these tires? That is one thing I liked so much about the PS2 is that they were much lighter than the F1 Supercars. 6 lbs lighter on each side of the rear and if I remember correctly, 3 or 4 lbs lighter on each front side.
Thoughts???
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did nobody think to double check that?
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I think there have been several references to this tire's 'stickiness' in corners. I've pushed them hard on both dry and wet pavement and have been mightily impressed - especially on wet. But today, in cool and dry conditions, I had to accelerate hard (launch, if you will) out of a drive while turning right, with much quickly approaching traffic from the rear. The rears broke loose just enough to smoothly slide me into my chosen lane as I happily continued to apply power instead of backing off while turning into the drift. Everything was in such perfect sync that I couldn't even tell when they hooked up. But the acceleration was jarring and I hope the controlled slide looked as awesome to the following crowd as it felt in the driver's seat. This is why I drive a Z06 .... and, after a couple thousand road miles, the VS tires continue to impress and give me the confidence to drive like I never would with the F1's.
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Well you guys have been talking these up a aw full lot. So I ordered a set of 265/35-18 and 295/30-19 today. Sure hope they are quieter and stick better than the stock Goodyears.
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I have had mine to the track (Road Atl and VIR) and have been impressed with how they do. Do the do as good as the PS2s, no, but for the money, and as much as I track, it is works for me until I get more skill. The thing I like about them, is they are very predictable when pushed really hard. I haven't had a chance to drive them in the rain or at the dragstrip but for dd and occasional track use, they are a good value
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I have had mine to the track (Road Atl and VIR) and have been impressed with how they do. Do the do as good as the PS2s, no, but for the money, and as much as I track, it is works for me until I get more skill. The thing I like about them, is they are very predictable when pushed really hard. I haven't had a chance to drive them in the rain or at the dragstrip but for dd and occasional track use, they are a good value
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With all the information I find tire weight is not included. From what I can see I saved 10 total pounds on tire weight with the Toyo T1r over the GY F1 SC.
I cant find much on the German magazine in which the Vred's took 1st place either. I guess contacting the horse mouth for their tyre weights would be one option.
http://www.vredestein.com/Contact_Co...erSessionID=73
"Phoenix, AZ (PRWEB) January 27, 2008 - MotorWeb.com, a leader in online aftermarket performance auto parts and accessories, has picked up the Vredestein Tire line for distribution in the United States. The German sports car magazine Powercar crowned the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta the winner of a test involving eight high-performance summer tires. According to Powercar the Ultrac Sessanta blew away the competition with its high performance results under both wet and dry testing. The Vredestein tire was also the most affordably priced of the high-end tires tested. MotorWeb.com now carries the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta in all sizes along with the lines from most popular worldwide tire brands."
http://www.tyretrade.ie/07tt-news/tyn326.html
http://www.italdesign.it/dinamic/pre...estein_eng.pdf
I cant find much on the German magazine in which the Vred's took 1st place either. I guess contacting the horse mouth for their tyre weights would be one option.
http://www.vredestein.com/Contact_Co...erSessionID=73
"Phoenix, AZ (PRWEB) January 27, 2008 - MotorWeb.com, a leader in online aftermarket performance auto parts and accessories, has picked up the Vredestein Tire line for distribution in the United States. The German sports car magazine Powercar crowned the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta the winner of a test involving eight high-performance summer tires. According to Powercar the Ultrac Sessanta blew away the competition with its high performance results under both wet and dry testing. The Vredestein tire was also the most affordably priced of the high-end tires tested. MotorWeb.com now carries the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta in all sizes along with the lines from most popular worldwide tire brands."
http://www.tyretrade.ie/07tt-news/tyn326.html
http://www.italdesign.it/dinamic/pre...estein_eng.pdf