Notices
C5 General General C5 Corvette and C5 Z06 Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

[Z06] ***Build Date/VIN Analysis of LS6 Valve Spring Failures***

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-13-2014, 12:09 AM
  #361  
250kicker
6th Gear
 
250kicker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I just had one break this weekend 2003 car made in 8/02
Old 10-19-2014, 01:13 PM
  #362  
4drturbo
Instructor
 
4drturbo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: Gardner Kansas
Posts: 228
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 250kicker
I just had one break, bent a valve. my car is a 2003 built in 8/02
Mileage? Mods?

I just ordered:

660" LIFT PLATINUM SPRING KIT WITH STEEL RETAINERS SK001 S
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/660...s-sk001-s.html

LS CHROMOLY PUSHRODS 7.400" LONG .105" WALL
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/ls-...-105-wall.html

02 Z06. Car has 55k miles and the VIN is in the danger zone with the yellow springs. Car also has a ProCharger on it.

Only had the car for 2 weeks and not risking anything.
Old 11-19-2014, 09:53 PM
  #363  
250kicker
6th Gear
 
250kicker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2014
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

2003 z06 build date 8/02 70,000 miles. last 6 of my vin**** 107257 only mod is air intake
Old 11-21-2014, 10:42 AM
  #364  
Brock63
Instructor
 
Brock63's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: Charleston South Carolina
Posts: 229
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I am ordering my kit but hoping at 20,000 miles on my 2002 Z06 that I got time to wait until after Christmas with normal daily driving...no track or harsh treatment.?


Mine is 06/02 build date.

Last edited by Brock63; 12-04-2014 at 03:27 PM.
Old 11-21-2014, 01:27 PM
  #365  
GenerationX1
Burning Brakes
 
GenerationX1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 1,073
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Brock63
I am ordering my kit but hoping at 20,000 miles on my 2002 Z06 that I got time to wait until after Christmas with normal daily driving...no track or harsh treatment.?
I have 59k on my 02 but my build date is an early one @ 9/01. I haven't replaced mine yet either and that's not to say it still can't happen. I don't daily drive mine though either. I still plan on replacing mine also.
Old 12-01-2014, 10:30 AM
  #366  
Dude.
1st Gear
 
Dude.'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: Cinnaminson New Jersey
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I just had one go on me last week. 2004 Z06, stock, daily driven, 29K miles and built 11/16/2003. Springs were raw with orange stripe. Replacing with part number 12499224 along with all new valve seals.
Old 12-02-2014, 01:18 PM
  #367  
Trash
Racer
 
Trash's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2010
Posts: 386
Received 22 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Brock63
I am ordering my kit but hoping at 20,000 miles on my 2002 Z06 that I got time to wait until after Christmas with normal daily driving...no track or harsh treatment.?
Whether its track driven or daily driver doesn't matter. They've broken during all regimes. Some guys while idling, some getting on the freeway etc. That's what makes it difficult to predict. There's no correlation between use and failure. In fact some have occurred at low mileage, others high mileage.
Old 12-04-2014, 03:28 PM
  #368  
Brock63
Instructor
 
Brock63's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: Charleston South Carolina
Posts: 229
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Trash
Whether its track driven or daily driver doesn't matter. They've broken during all regimes. Some guys while idling, some getting on the freeway etc. That's what makes it difficult to predict. There's no correlation between use and failure. In fact some have occurred at low mileage, others high mileage.
Mine are on order with some other things I am getting from my purchase deal of the C5Z... Son in law teaches automotive and has a brand new shop so will be able to do it all with the right equipment rather than in driveway or dark garage.
Old 12-04-2014, 05:46 PM
  #369  
Brock63
Instructor
 
Brock63's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: Charleston South Carolina
Posts: 229
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
No matter how you slice, dice or analyze the data ... the bottom line IMO is that any 2002 or 2003 Z06 is high risk for valve spring failure, and the stock valve springs should be swapped out for reliable aftermarket springs. The peace of mind alone is worth the money involved ... not to mention the chances of destroying your engine from a valve spring failure are also gone.
exactly...you cant compare the numbers here with TOTAL vettes built in this grouping...you have to use at a random sampling of the forum group...and then expound that percentage to the TOTAL amount as a true estimation. So 3%-8% failure on forum...should also equate to 3-8% overall....sometimes it is far worse...sometimes it is far better...but in the end they average out as a snapshot in time and when using sampling.

For parts that are so reasonably priced for the new GM blue springs and intake/exhaust seals....and an engine that makes it fairly easy to complete the replacement without having to pull motor or anything to get to them all.....it is just prudent PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE and well worth doing rather than rolling dice on the alternative damage to engine if it happens. Dont go out drinking beer one weekend with the buddies or skip a track day or hold off on the new can of Pinnacle Sovereign and take care of the springs.
Old 12-21-2014, 11:05 PM
  #370  
Zo6kid 1499
8th Gear
 
Zo6kid 1499's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2014
Posts: 8
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the info , just joined Forum tonight , found out that I'm in the danger zone. My 03 built in 7/02 !!! Thanks for the info , off to see Robby tomorrow.
Old 12-31-2014, 04:07 PM
  #371  
jon boring
Intermediate
 
jon boring's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2010
Location: Clarksville TN
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Had a broken spring 2 years ago, just now repairing

I had one break under normal driving conditions 2 years ago. Due to a new addition to the family, the repair was on the back burner for a long time. Just now getting around to replacing the engine with a GM performance LS376/480 crate motor. Engine swap was due to the piston grenading itself in the cylinder. The car is at the dealership, so I'll have to get the build date later, but I'm sure it's in the window. It's an 02 Z06 with 59000 miles on the clock. Only mod was a Vararam intake that came already installed on the car. Spring broke under mild acceleration while getting up to the speed limit on the interstate, no high revs at all. Really wish I had known about the spring issue, but I didn't, so now I'm paying the price. And that price is getting more expensive everyday! Hopefully I'll have everything together soon, though. I really miss driving her!
Old 01-03-2015, 07:22 PM
  #372  
Corvette Maniac
Racer
 
Corvette Maniac's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2004
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 254
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Hi,
Remembered this topic, but never got to read through it...

My EB Z is build may 17th 2002, so in the "danger zone".
Has about 55k miles on it and so far no problems! I am the 5th owner as far as I know... Previous 2 I know a little, they're no racers... I drive it hard sometimes but no real racing either... 10k miles so far... These include several Autobahn miles

Will search for some replacement springs this winter and replace them coming spring when I take the car out of storage...
PAC 1218 is the way to go if I'm correct... no mayor mods in the future besides a vararam

Last edited by Corvette Maniac; 01-03-2015 at 07:37 PM.
Old 01-17-2015, 11:06 AM
  #373  
azvrod
Instructor
 
azvrod's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2009
Posts: 236
Received 54 Likes on 27 Posts

Default

My 03 Z, Built Dec 2002, Springs are good (just verified)
Old 01-19-2015, 12:05 PM
  #374  
4drturbo
Instructor
 
4drturbo's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2013
Location: Gardner Kansas
Posts: 228
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 4drturbo
Mileage? Mods?

I just ordered:

660" LIFT PLATINUM SPRING KIT WITH STEEL RETAINERS SK001 S
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/660...s-sk001-s.html

LS CHROMOLY PUSHRODS 7.400" LONG .105" WALL
http://www.briantooleyracing.com/ls-...-105-wall.html

02 Z06. Car has 55k miles and the VIN is in the danger zone with the yellow springs. Car also has a ProCharger on it.

Only had the car for 2 weeks and not risking anything.
Quoting myself. Had this installed for piece of mind back in October. Springs were completely fine. (yellow) I ended up selling them for $20 too hahaha.
Old 01-19-2015, 08:24 PM
  #375  
jakdeefl
1st Gear
 
jakdeefl's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: Sarasota FL
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Add me to the list

Originally Posted by 4drturbo
Quoting myself. Had this installed for piece of mind back in October. Springs were completely fine. (yellow) I ended up selling them for $20 too hahaha.
# 3 intake broken spring slow speed cruising 16120 miles on a 03 Z06 wish I saw all of this first guess i should of looked.....
Old 03-01-2015, 03:50 PM
  #376  
GM350Z
Advanced
 
GM350Z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

wow, very impressive. Nice job
Old 03-02-2015, 03:55 PM
  #377  
McFly09
Intermediate
 
McFly09's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2013
Location: San Antonio Texas
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I'm about to have my valve spring replaced with new LS2/LS3 springs.

Henderson Performance in New Braunfels, TX recommended those for OEM replacements and Comp Cams 26918 as an upgrade.

This is strictly preventative on a bone stock car, 15k miles. I'm not ever planning to swap out the cam so I'm thinking of just going with the new OEM LS2/LS3 spring.

I just wanted to throw that out there and see how that sounds to you guys.

Regards

Get notified of new replies

To ***Build Date/VIN Analysis of LS6 Valve Spring Failures***

Old 03-19-2015, 09:37 PM
  #378  
wildwall
Racer
 
wildwall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2007
Location: Datil NM
Posts: 488
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 1 Post

Default

It's ironic that new plugs and wires cost more than the gm springs and seals!
Old 03-20-2015, 07:06 PM
  #379  
Kathomps71
Heel & Toe
 
Kathomps71's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Just to make sure I am interpreting the VINs right. I am looking at an '04 but has the last 5 of 20724. Did they start over on the last 4 digits for the '04 year because just looking at your graph and based on my VIN number, it looks like I should be in the danger zone with the '02 models.
Old 03-20-2015, 07:18 PM
  #380  
GM350Z
Advanced
 
GM350Z's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Negatory, if I remember correctly, the spring problem is basically non-existent in 01 and 04's.


Quick Reply: [Z06] ***Build Date/VIN Analysis of LS6 Valve Spring Failures***



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:03 PM.