[Z06] Input for Tires+Brakes
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Input for Tires+Brakes
I think my Z is just about ready for 4 tires, pads all around, and brake rotors up front, but I just got the car and it has a strange setup as it sits. I don't know the width of the wheels, but the rears are wearing 285/30/20 and the fronts have 275/30/19. Pilot Sport 1's all around. The rears look somewhat stretched and I hate it, so I'm guessing that they're 20x11. The front sidewalls are straight but the inner lip has a little bit of push, so I'm guessing 19x10. I'll post pictures tomorrow to help.
So far, my thinking was that I would get PSS's. 285/35/19 and 315/35/20, but I don't know how well that would work with TC, AH, ABS, etc. Another tire I looked at was the RS-3 Version 2. It appealed to me because it was supposedly designed for better wet traction. The vast majority of the car's time is on the street, so I need something that will work in the rain as well, so the regular RS-3 is out. I also noticed that the new Pilot Sport Cup 2 has sizes that could work...305/30/20 and 275/35/19. Very expensive though. I'm not sure I could justify $2000 for one set of tires.
I have no idea at all what rotors to look at. I'd only be changing the rotors, nothing to do with the calipers. Anything that will work with factory rotors and fit with a 19" HRE 543R wheel. Pad suggestions would also be appreciated.
So far, my thinking was that I would get PSS's. 285/35/19 and 315/35/20, but I don't know how well that would work with TC, AH, ABS, etc. Another tire I looked at was the RS-3 Version 2. It appealed to me because it was supposedly designed for better wet traction. The vast majority of the car's time is on the street, so I need something that will work in the rain as well, so the regular RS-3 is out. I also noticed that the new Pilot Sport Cup 2 has sizes that could work...305/30/20 and 275/35/19. Very expensive though. I'm not sure I could justify $2000 for one set of tires.
I have no idea at all what rotors to look at. I'd only be changing the rotors, nothing to do with the calipers. Anything that will work with factory rotors and fit with a 19" HRE 543R wheel. Pad suggestions would also be appreciated.
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I think my Z is just about ready for 4 tires, pads all around, and brake rotors up front, but I just got the car and it has a strange setup as it sits. I don't know the width of the wheels, but the rears are wearing 285/30/20 and the fronts have 275/30/19. Pilot Sport 1's all around. The rears look somewhat stretched and I hate it, so I'm guessing that they're 20x11. The front sidewalls are straight but the inner lip has a little bit of push, so I'm guessing 19x10. I'll post pictures tomorrow to help.
So far, my thinking was that I would get PSS's. 285/35/19 and 315/35/20, but I don't know how well that would work with TC, AH, ABS, etc. Another tire I looked at was the RS-3 Version 2. It appealed to me because it was supposedly designed for better wet traction. The vast majority of the car's time is on the street, so I need something that will work in the rain as well, so the regular RS-3 is out. I also noticed that the new Pilot Sport Cup 2 has sizes that could work...305/30/20 and 275/35/19. Very expensive though. I'm not sure I could justify $2000 for one set of tires.
I have no idea at all what rotors to look at. I'd only be changing the rotors, nothing to do with the calipers. Anything that will work with factory rotors and fit with a 19" HRE 543R wheel. Pad suggestions would also be appreciated.
So far, my thinking was that I would get PSS's. 285/35/19 and 315/35/20, but I don't know how well that would work with TC, AH, ABS, etc. Another tire I looked at was the RS-3 Version 2. It appealed to me because it was supposedly designed for better wet traction. The vast majority of the car's time is on the street, so I need something that will work in the rain as well, so the regular RS-3 is out. I also noticed that the new Pilot Sport Cup 2 has sizes that could work...305/30/20 and 275/35/19. Very expensive though. I'm not sure I could justify $2000 for one set of tires.
I have no idea at all what rotors to look at. I'd only be changing the rotors, nothing to do with the calipers. Anything that will work with factory rotors and fit with a 19" HRE 543R wheel. Pad suggestions would also be appreciated.
The Hankook R-S3 V2 doesn't come in appropriate sizes for your wheel combo, so that's out.
In the Michelin Pilot Super Sport line (their most current line of daily-drivable summer max performance tires), this translates to a 305/25ZR20 rear and a 275/30ZR19 front at $1474 plus shipping from Tire Rack. The Pilot Sport 2 is older and more expensive than the Super Sport, so forget about that. I'd definitely go with the PSS combo in your case
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"In the Michelin Pilot Super Sport line (their most current line of daily-drivable summer max performance tires), this translates to a 305/25ZR20 rear and a 275/30ZR19 front at $1474 plus shipping from Tire Rack. The Pilot Sport 2 is older and more expensive than the Super Sport, so forget about that. I'd definitely go with the PSS combo in your case"
However, i would recommend the Stoptech Street performance pads for your application. Be sure to bed or burnish them properly.
However, i would recommend the Stoptech Street performance pads for your application. Be sure to bed or burnish them properly.
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The first tires you are looking at are too tall for the car. You do not want to exceed a 30 aspect ratio on a 315/20 for this car, and 25 is actually correct. The front should be wearing a 30 profile on a 19 unless you step down to a 255, which you aren't even considering. The 315/35-20 you mentioned for the rear comes in at a huge 2.7 inches taller than your factory rubber, 1.7-2.0 inches over factory C6Z06/ZR1 fitment and 1.5 inches over the gigantic 345/30-19s people minitub/flare their cars to run.
The Hankook R-S3 V2 doesn't come in appropriate sizes for your wheel combo, so that's out.
In the Michelin Pilot Super Sport line (their most current line of daily-drivable summer max performance tires), this translates to a 305/25ZR20 rear and a 275/30ZR19 front at $1474 plus shipping from Tire Rack. The Pilot Sport 2 is older and more expensive than the Super Sport, so forget about that. I'd definitely go with the PSS combo in your case
The Hankook R-S3 V2 doesn't come in appropriate sizes for your wheel combo, so that's out.
In the Michelin Pilot Super Sport line (their most current line of daily-drivable summer max performance tires), this translates to a 305/25ZR20 rear and a 275/30ZR19 front at $1474 plus shipping from Tire Rack. The Pilot Sport 2 is older and more expensive than the Super Sport, so forget about that. I'd definitely go with the PSS combo in your case
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Why do you want to change the brake rotors? Are they below minimum thickness?
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They're super low, somewhere in the low 1 inch range last time I checked. Again, just bought the car. I only want to replace the fronts, and I thought maybe I could go bigger with the 19's? I don't know the offsets are though.
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I would not go more than 18/19 on these cars.
19/20 is so much more unnecessary unsprung weight and our suspensions are not tuned to deal with rock-hard ultra low profile tires.
I guess if it's a street car and never tracked and you don't do spirited backroad driving it could be OK. If you care about performance, don't do it.
PSS's are fantastic tires, that said.
19/20 is so much more unnecessary unsprung weight and our suspensions are not tuned to deal with rock-hard ultra low profile tires.
I guess if it's a street car and never tracked and you don't do spirited backroad driving it could be OK. If you care about performance, don't do it.
PSS's are fantastic tires, that said.
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I would not go more than 18/19 on these cars.
19/20 is so much more unnecessary unsprung weight and our suspensions are not tuned to deal with rock-hard ultra low profile tires.
I guess if it's a street car and never tracked and you don't do spirited backroad driving it could be OK. If you care about performance, don't do it.
PSS's are fantastic tires, that said.
19/20 is so much more unnecessary unsprung weight and our suspensions are not tuned to deal with rock-hard ultra low profile tires.
I guess if it's a street car and never tracked and you don't do spirited backroad driving it could be OK. If you care about performance, don't do it.
PSS's are fantastic tires, that said.
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as long as it's over .4 or .5" it works
problem with taller tires is they gear the car higher and slow you down via extra weight. you get taller gears and more lbs, also adds stress to wheel bearings and suspension bushings with that weight
so, would it work? yes
but a 25 series would be a more proper fit on a 305 rear. will look much more normal too. a 30 in a 20" wheel is a lot taller wheel/tire, may look odd on the car
problem with taller tires is they gear the car higher and slow you down via extra weight. you get taller gears and more lbs, also adds stress to wheel bearings and suspension bushings with that weight
so, would it work? yes
but a 25 series would be a more proper fit on a 305 rear. will look much more normal too. a 30 in a 20" wheel is a lot taller wheel/tire, may look odd on the car
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Like I said before, I just bought the car and it came with the wheels. I really do wish I had 18/19s but it is what it is and it'll be a while before I sell the wheels or get on the track. My main question is whether a 0.6 inch diameter difference between F and R will work with TC and AH since the factory difference is 0.8 inch. I think the sizes are 275/35ZR19 and 305/30ZR20 for the 0.6 difference.
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Right you are, so here are some photos I've taken. It'd be very helpful if you could possibly confirm my thinking that my wheels are 19x10 and 20x11.
Front at 275/30ZR19. Doesn't seem too bad.
Front again.
Rear at 285/30ZR20. No clue why the previous owner chose this size, but I don't like this stretch.
Rear.
Also as mentioned before, all tires are Pilot Sport 1.
Front at 275/30ZR19. Doesn't seem too bad.
Front again.
Rear at 285/30ZR20. No clue why the previous owner chose this size, but I don't like this stretch.
Rear.
Also as mentioned before, all tires are Pilot Sport 1.
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Given the stretch, I'd say that you are not far off with your size guesses. I believe my wheels displayed their sizes on the inside of the hubs (offsets were stamped back there for sure), so you can check to verify, but regardless, a 275/30-19 fits your fronts well and you can definitely accommodate another 20mm on your rears without any problems whatsoever, so my tire recommendation remains the same