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If it's a turbo model, sure, it can hang with a stock C5 ZO6 from a stop. As speeds increase the ZO6 will start pulling. Why do you care, they are 2 completely different vehicles?
If it's a turbo model, sure, it can hang with a stock C5 ZO6 from a stop. As speeds increase the ZO6 will start pulling. Why do you care, they are 2 completely different vehicles?
Because I was nearly embarrassed today , off road of course . First time he caught me off guard and it wasn't pretty. Second time I was on it, it was pretty close but I had him all the way to 50 before I shut down.
I had a jeep srt8 and from a dig i could take anyone, then once the speed got up there the jeep becomes a brick. Same with the porsche cayenne, awd plus v8 twin turbo will be a beast at low speeds
I guess that there are a number of cars/SUV/EVs now that will give a 13+ year old Z car a run for it. I know for a fact that my wife's Audi B8 S4 will.
I guess that there are a number of cars/SUV/EVs now that will give a 13+ year old Z car a run for it. I know for a fact that my wife's Audi B8 S4 will.
A 2015 Cayenne turbo has 520hp but is 4,817lbs, thus 9.26lb per hp. A 2004 Z06 is only 7.70lb per hp. It shouldn't even be a race from a dig, other than the AWD advantage of the Cayenne. However with some sticky drag radials the Z is gone! The problem I experience even with my 1 year old BFG Rivals with a 200 compound rating is I can't get the tires to stick in 1st or 2nd unless they are really hot. A Toyota Camry could be me off the line with my Eagle F1s before the BFGs. LOL
^ The OP only raced to 50ish, hardly a race. That is 100% traction, which the Cayenne Turbo clearly is the victor (in that type of race), on the streets.
This is what we used to call a "light to light" race situation. A street tired Corvette is at a disadvantage to many AWD vehicles below 60. Mine doesn't hook without pedaling it for much higher speeds.
I guess that there are a number of cars/SUV/EVs now that will give a 13+ year old Z car a run for it. I know for a fact that my wife's Audi B8 S4 will.
Mark
Are you talking from a dig? I really like S4's but I wouldn't sweat one when I was stock. They are slower in every category I can think of.
Last edited by Kins13y; 12-23-2014 at 03:00 PM.
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A 2015 Cayenne turbo has 520hp but is 4,817lbs, thus 9.26lb per hp. A 2004 Z06 is only 7.70lb per hp. It shouldn't even be a race from a dig, other than the AWD advantage of the Cayenne. However with some sticky drag radials the Z is gone! The problem I experience even with my 1 year old BFG Rivals with a 200 compound rating is I can't get the tires to stick in 1st or 2nd unless they are really hot. A Toyota Camry could be me off the line with my Eagle F1s before the BFGs. LOL
Originally Posted by Kins13y
Are you talking from a dig? I really like S4's but I wouldn't sweat one when I was stock. They are slower in every category I can think of.
This thread is DEFINITELY referring to dig races, in which the AWD cars mentioned have a very clear advantage, especially when the speed is kept below 70mph
I've spun my tires at 60+mph, so traction below highway speeds is certainly a limiting factor for head-to-head racing in these cars
As for drag radials: I didn't buy this car for digs, I bought it for corners, so I won't be running drag radials on the street
I believe it. I have an S, non-turbo, with the 8 speed paddle shift with the sport suspension, sport exhaust, etc., and I haven't met anyone on the road who wanted to play yet that beat it.
These are fast take-off's from light to light or the open road. The acceleration is incredible.
I've embarrassed quite a few Mustang owners. I haven't had the experience of a Vette yet, lol.
I don't race like a wild man or anything. It's just when I pull out and they get on it I get on it right with them until I pass and then they know they're finished.
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Unless your ready, the automatic tranny is always going to have the advantage in a short race. A camry V6 jumped me by more than a car length from a light. Once I realized he was into it and got on it I was by him. With the six speed you have to prepare to launch.
These C5Zs simply have light weight tail ends and w/o sticky tires you can't get the rear to squat and stick. It's a problem in 2nd gear too. You have to learn how to feather the clutch and ease into the throttle and not hammer the shift into 2nd. It's very frustrating knowing the power is there to whip 95% of the cars on the road, but not being able to get the power down. It's true most of us bought these cars for carving corners more than drag race launches. The Mustang aftermarket guys have figured out how to produce performance suspension parts which make them squat and hook from the line. I'm pretty sure my n/a'd 305hp 1997 Cobra would have beat my C5Z to 50mph. After that it would be all over but man that car would hook on drag radials. I had Maximum Motorsports adjustable lower control arms and panhard bar which caused that rear to plant on the pavement. Add a pair of warmed up Nitto drag radials and I could lay a pair of 315 wide rubber down the road all while getting to 60mph in about 5 seconds. Not bad for a little 4.6L quad cam engine. They just got nothing after 60 w/o a power adder.
12-22-2014, 07:52 PM
Holy Smoke - Porsche Cayenne as Fast as a Z06??
