EVLGTO

Saw a super clean 02 C5 Z 80k miles for $22,900. Its a 2 owner car. Its black, super clean in and out. Mods are, arh headers, Borla exhaust, performance sway bars, new front brakes, hid lights, new wheel bearing and tie rods, new steering rack, partition, pcv oil catch can, steering lock bypass done, new abs control unit, new hand brake pads, new battery, Callaway intake, high flow cats,chrome z06 wheels(stock ones), Corbeau seats, c6 ****, tinted windows, satellite radio, new tires. Professionally dyno tuned (made 450hp/434 tq) dyno sheet available as well as all receipts. 3 volumes of service manuals. Also has all stock parts.

What you think?

bikeriderga

If it made 450 RWHP, it is not with just headers and a Callaway intake. That should put you at around 390 RWHP.

To make 450 RWHP and 432 tq, It must have at minimum, an aggressive cam, and/or a Fast intake, or head work. With the torque numbers I would guess cam and head work or aftermarket heads. Not that this is a bad thing, but you need to know what was done, who did the work, and how long ago.

Sounds like it was either well taken care of or is a track car. Not enough info about why all of the items you listed were changed or swapped out at 80K.

I can understand the upgrades, but sounds like it has had a racing life with new tie rods, new wheel bearings, new steering rack, new ABS unit. Either that or an accident.

We would have to know more about it, but with all of these swaps, I would be very leery.

You can get a lower mileage car for the price he is asking. It may be a bargain, but based upon what you are saying, sounds like it has had a hard 80K life.

EVLGTO

I was wondering the same thing. 450rwhp has to be cammed. The other parts I'm not sure. The car is being sold at one of those small car lots. From the pics it looks super clean.

aramz06

I paid $22,900 exactly for my super clean 02 Z06 with 46,000 miles. And I have seen much better deals than the one I got. I do not think those mods justify the price of the car at that mileage. I'd keep looking. Lots of nice lightly modded Z's on the forum to look through.

momo20

i paid 23k for my 03 Z with 26,000 miles on her but that almost 4 years ago...

racebum

need an actual list of the mods to know

if the guy is looking for 20k and it has 10k in mods and the car is in good shape it's a good deal

if it's a few bolt ons....not really a great deal

EVLGTO

Here's a link to the mod list the dealer posted on the ad.

http://images.autotrader.com/scaler/..._A.366x421.jpg

PeteZ06

My thoughts are echoing with others.. First thing that came to mind is that this was a track car.

I wouldn't do it.

racebum

one of two things, either the car has more mods than listed

or it's not making 450whp

bit pricey for the mods listed. would assume dealer is in the car 16-17

EVLGTO

I agree. I was going to offer 17500 and fees.

The car was modded by A&A Corvette, which is a very reputable place. That car has to have some kind off aggressive cam in there to make that power. Plus, that car will not pass inspection with the LT headers. That can be used to my advantage.

Eric Reeves

One thing I picked up on the link you posted is that it was tuned by A&A which is a good thing. Before you kick it to the curb I would look closer and offer what you are willing to spend. But before you do anything you need to decide what you want? Do you want low miles and no mods, mods, or what. If A&A did the dyno then they can provide you with more insight as to what was done. A 450rwhp C5Z is a blast to have. To get to that level with a stock car (if that is what you are after) will take at least $5k. So you would need to buy a car at $15-17k in order to equal the asking price for this one. Or you can look to see if there are other modded cars for sale for the same. You have all the options since selling modded cars are harder to do than selling a low mile garage queen.

racebum

worth a try but i suspect there is no margin at that price

i still wonder what's up with the mods and power. was the car FI before and the supercharger was sold? 450whp is easy with a few psi on a stock engine.

is it heads and cam?

you really need to try and figure out what you're buying before you can tell what it's actually worth

dbs1vette

As a reference I bought an 04 Z16 for $17,500 off eBay. Not perfect, but pretty clean with 30,000 miles. And of course I sold the LS6 for $4500 and dropped in my 416 from my burned up camaro as well as the clutch from the same car...and a couple of other things since.

EVLGTO

So I spoke to the owner of the car lot. He told me the owner of A&A knows this car inside out. The prior owner was very meticulous, hence all the stuff that was replaced. The guy replaced most of those parts only a few thousand miles ago knowing it was stuff that would go bad from what I was told. A&A tuned the car and all the mods were done there. This car was never a track car.





And yes, if I can find an already modded Z, that would be great. because I will probably mod mine anyways. Rather find one already modded, especially if I can find one that was done up by a reputable shop. I am not a huge fan of the Crobeau seats. I like the stock Z seats( yeah I know I sound crazy). 80k miles does not scare me. I know these cars are solid and will easily go over 200k. Seen it many times in the 10 years I worked at Chevrolet.

I have had cammed LS cars and FI LS cars. Supercharger was fun, but nothing beats the sound of a cammed LS engine. Especially a Z06. The Z06 has always been a dream car of mine. Some kids like Ferrari, Lambos, whatever. Mine has always been a Corvette.

There is no way I'm gonna pay 22,900 for that car. Dealers don't give you **** for a modded car. But then when they get one and try to sell it, they ask a fortune. Also, for that price I can find a low mileage Z. Most I would pay for that car is $19000 otd. If he don't like it, he can go pound sand.

EVLGTO

Eric Reeves

Not a fan of the seats but easy to fix. Would be a good idea to get a complete list of mods done to it from A&A. They have to know what was done in order to tune it whether they did them or not. Otherwise, if looking for a reputable tuner car look at 21MC and Lingenelter websites for sale sections. I know Lingenfelter had a 2003 convertible with a 427 conversion for sale in the mid $30's. Considering the low miles and work done it was a steal. Not a Z but they have those listed as well. Good luck.

Fast Cop

Between the milage and the fact they are claiming 450 RWHP with only light mods listed I would walk. But thats me. Something or someone is not telling you everything. JMO

jhopper408

Yeah with headers and a tune I have a 03 Z and got 384/372. That's about the normal numbers.

bikeriderga

Your best bet would be to get the VIN and go see the folks at A&A. With the add-ons listed, there is no way a LS6 would be putting down 450 RWHP 432 RWT, no way!

You are not getting the full story, which would make me very reticent about buying it. A&A may be able to give you better insight. That is the very first thing I would do if you are seriously considering the car.

I still think you may be looking at a track car. But A&A should be able to tell you if they indeed did the work.

Best of luck!

BigBirdLS1

My 03Z has headers, vararam, cam, fast 102 and 102tb. It makes 455rwhp and 427rwtq. I bought it March 2014 it had 86k miles and was perfect inside and out. I paid $19k for mine so IMO I feel like $22k is a little high. I was gonna mod mine anyways and I know who did the mods as he modded my 02 SS.