Big Block Vs. Small Block - Future C6 Engines
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Big Block Vs. Small Block - Future C6 Engines
I understand where the C6 Z06 for 2006 will have a "small block" 427 cubic inch engine. Were the early 427's from the 1960's big blocks? And what is the difference? Is there a cutoff limit where a certain size engine must be a "big" block?
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Originally Posted by 2000 green hornet
Were the early 427's from the 1960's big blocks?
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I understand where the C6 Z06 for 2006 will have a "small block" 427 cubic inch engine. Were the early 427's from the 1960's big blocks? And what is the difference? Is there a cutoff limit where a certain size engine must be a "big" block?
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Originally Posted by shopdog
There's no "cutoff" per se. A big block is a big block because it has large *exterior* dimensions. The old big blocks were huge hunks of cast iron. Modern casting and manufacturing techniques have allowed the block to be the same exterior size as previous generation small blocks while at the same time allowing internal displacement to be as much as, and in some cases more than, the older big blocks.
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The advantage of the new small blocks over the old big blocks is horsepower without the weight so the handling is not compromised. The old big blocks were torquemasters but a little too front heavy for precise handling even with the heavy duty sway bars and springs.
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Originally Posted by shopdog
There's no "cutoff" per se. A big block is a big block because it has large *exterior* dimensions. The old big blocks were huge hunks of cast iron. Modern casting and manufacturing techniques have allowed the block to be the same exterior size as previous generation small blocks while at the same time allowing internal displacement to be as much as, and in some cases more than, the older big blocks.
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You mention future C6 engines in your title. The LS-7 pretty much represents the maximum displacement you can get out of an LSx block--there's not much room for more bore or stroke. Additionally, given the current status of the world markets, I doubt you'll ever see a bigger production engine in any future Corvettes. Maybe more power someday, but I think this 427 is going to be as big as it gets going forward.
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All of the above are correct. Traditionally, the bore spacing has remained constant for each line, and this has simplified the manufacturing process. In the old iron block days, small blocks were:
265, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, 400 cubic inches
Big blocks were: 396, 402, 427, 454 cubic inches
Note that swapping various cranks into various bore blocks can yield interesting combinations, as well. The 302 was basically a 283 crank throw in a 327 block bore.
Ford with the 221/260/289/302/351 line small blocks and 332/352/390/406/427/460 big blocks and Mopar 273/318 small block and 360/383/426/440 big block were similar.
265, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, 400 cubic inches
Big blocks were: 396, 402, 427, 454 cubic inches
Note that swapping various cranks into various bore blocks can yield interesting combinations, as well. The 302 was basically a 283 crank throw in a 327 block bore.
Ford with the 221/260/289/302/351 line small blocks and 332/352/390/406/427/460 big blocks and Mopar 273/318 small block and 360/383/426/440 big block were similar.