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Old 11-12-2005, 06:12 PM
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although side impact airbags are an option, GM cleverly doesnt give you a pic in the brochure-

Does anyone know how it deploys? Does it cover the head- like a side curtain-or just the chest- anyone have pic of the deployed bag????/

As a trauma surgeon, I need to know before spending the $

It boggles my mind that they still sell cars without curtains.......
Old 11-12-2005, 06:21 PM
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Don't know, but they are in the side of the seat, down about halfway.
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I can tell you that it deploys from the side bolster of the seat.
I'm not sure how far vertically it travels, but one has to assume it goes up to your head, if it didn't and just covers your body, then your head would snap over this curtain and possibly lead to more injuries.

heres more I just found...

The optional sport seat offers six-way power adjustment as well as a power lower-lumbar adjustment and lateral side bolsters for both driver and passenger. The sport seats also include head and torso side impact air bags that deploy through the side faces of the bolsters rather than through a bezel or a trim piece.

GM Passenger Sensing System – Replacing the previous manually controlled air bag switch, all ’06 Corvettes come with advanced dual-stage frontal air bags with GM’s Passenger Sensing System (PSS). PSS uses the latest sensing technology to turn the front passenger air bag on or off. If the sensor system detects an unoccupied front passenger seat or the presence of a smaller occupant, the front passenger air bag is designed to automatically turn off so it would not deploy in the event of a frontal collision. A status indicator on the inside rearview mirror alerts occupants that the passenger air bag is on or off.

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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
I can tell you that it deploys from the side bolster of the seat.
I'm not sure how far vertically it travels, but one has to assume it goes up to your head, if it didn't and just covers your body, then your head would snap over this curtain and possibly lead to more injuries.
Well, sitting in the car, I don't see how it could come up enough to protect the head. It'll catch under your armpit if it tried to go that high, unless you're a lot smaller than the average Corvette driver.
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dont get a convertable then
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Originally Posted by rcrous
although side impact airbags are an option, GM cleverly doesnt give you a pic in the brochure-

Does anyone know how it deploys? Does it cover the head- like a side curtain-or just the chest- anyone have pic of the deployed bag????/

As a trauma surgeon, I need to know before spending the $

It boggles my mind that they still sell cars without curtains.......
Removeable top, or convertible top, makes side curtains nearly impossible to mount.
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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
I can tell you that it deploys from the side bolster of the seat.
I'm not sure how far vertically it travels, but one has to assume it goes up to your head, if it didn't and just covers your body, then your head would snap over this curtain and possibly lead to more injuries.

heres more I just found...

The optional sport seat offers six-way power adjustment as well as a power lower-lumbar adjustment and lateral side bolsters for both driver and passenger. The sport seats also include head and torso side impact air bags that deploy through the side faces of the bolsters rather than through a bezel or a trim piece.

GM Passenger Sensing System – Replacing the previous manually controlled air bag switch, all ’06 Corvettes come with advanced dual-stage frontal air bags with GM’s Passenger Sensing System (PSS). PSS uses the latest sensing technology to turn the front passenger air bag on or off. If the sensor system detects an unoccupied front passenger seat or the presence of a smaller occupant, the front passenger air bag is designed to automatically turn off so it would not deploy in the event of a frontal collision. A status indicator on the inside rearview mirror alerts occupants that the passenger air bag is on or off.
PSS= brilliant!
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They are combo bags. If you do a search on NHTSA website, they list the kind of bags every car has. If you then lookup combo bags, it tells you just how they cover you. You should be fine. Any bag is better than none. If you are still too worried, find something with side curtains.
Seriously, nothing is 100 %. The kind of morons they give licenses to is the real problem. Defensive driving is the best insurance.
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Hi. I'm a safety geek as well. If you want a look at overall safety of the corvette - take a look at the injury, damage, theft statistics on www.iihs.org . The corvette shows up great!
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Originally Posted by rcrous
although side impact airbags are an option, GM cleverly doesnt give you a pic in the brochure-

Does anyone know how it deploys? Does it cover the head- like a side curtain-or just the chest- anyone have pic of the deployed bag????.......
Page 84 of The Sixth-Generation Special Issue of Corvette Quarterly has a drawing of the side airbag deployed. It extends past the top of your head. Contact Laraine Pugia, Subscription Service Rep., for a back issue, 586 558-3809.

Frank

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Great info - thanx!
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My dad being a doc had the same questions. Heres a post I made a while ago. Oh crap the searh forum is down. Well in the meantime I can tell you this. The side airbags do infact protect the head. This is described in the special 6th generation issue of corvette quaterly on page 84. I scanned the artice and the picture and would be more then happy to send them to you, so please PM me your email adress. Also you can follow this link NHTSA which shows NHTSA's list of cars available with side- airbags, and what they protect. You'll see the vette has a combo bag, which deploys from the seat to protect the side, and the head. I also sent an email to GM , which I would display a copy of, but unfortionatly I being a dumbass, deleted a while ago, asking them if the side air bags protected the side and head. After waiting a few days, they responded with a message like, after extensive research we have found that the Corvettes side airbags do infact protect the head as well as your side/ chest. Then they went on about how you must also wear your seat belts, etc. It was then ended with, thanks for your question, and the signed " head of GM customer serivce department". To me the fact that it took that much trouble to get some information, which if I was GM would make widely available and would show in the brochure, is insane. I think its something thats extremely important to this car as nothing elses mentioned in the brochure can mean your life. I refuse to buy cars without stability control and side airbags for every passenger, that must protect the side and especially the head. My Dad, ( the Doctor ) and I are big Safety fanatics and I give you my personal assurance that we would not be ordering a Vette, if we weren't 100% positive that the side air bags did infact protect the head. I know its a lot to read, but I was so frustrated that I couldn't find this information easily, it overjoys me to be able to help someone with similar concerns. Thanks you. And please don't forget to PM your email adress so I can send you the article and the picture from it.

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Hmmmm I have side air bags... it says on my seats... Oh yea that is the main reason I purchased my C6... safety...
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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
I can tell you that it deploys from the side bolster of the seat.
I'm not sure how far vertically it travels, but one has to assume it goes up to your head, if it didn't and just covers your body, then your head would snap over this curtain and possibly lead to more injuries.

heres more I just found...

The optional sport seat offers six-way power adjustment as well as a power lower-lumbar adjustment and lateral side bolsters for both driver and passenger. The sport seats also include head and torso side impact air bags that deploy through the side faces of the bolsters rather than through a bezel or a trim piece.

GM Passenger Sensing System – Replacing the previous manually controlled air bag switch, all ’06 Corvettes come with advanced dual-stage frontal air bags with GM’s Passenger Sensing System (PSS). PSS uses the latest sensing technology to turn the front passenger air bag on or off. If the sensor system detects an unoccupied front passenger seat or the presence of a smaller occupant, the front passenger air bag is designed to automatically turn off so it would not deploy in the event of a frontal collision. A status indicator on the inside rearview mirror alerts occupants that the passenger air bag is on or off.
Oh yeah really high tech - a switch in the seat cushion. I think it is funny how ad copy is written to amaze the customer.
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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Oh yeah really high tech - a switch in the seat cushion. I think it is funny how ad copy is written to amaze the customer.
Got to be more than that, otherwise it would have been in the very first front airbag!
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No its nothing more than a weight sensor that will not deploy the airbag if the weight is less than some predetermined amount..
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Now I'm not sure when airbags first made thier debut, but for some reason it must go alot deeper than that.
It couldn't have taken them this long to add a simple weight sensor?
After all, don't seatbelt sensors work this way? If so, why didn't it come with the advent of bags?

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Originally Posted by ZeusC6
Now I'm not sure when airbags first made thier debut, but for some reason it must go alot deeper than that.
It couldn't have taken them this long to add a simple weight sensor?
After all, don't seatbelt sensors work this way? If so, why didn't it come with the advent of bags?
Because when airbags were first mandated, the government and the airbag makers weren't willing to acknowledge that airbags can kill children and small adults. Now that the public is aware airbags can be dangerous, they add the switch and tout it as a great advance.

Note that a recent re-analysis (published in the peer reviewed statistical journal Chance) of actual real world accident data (the NHTSA accident report database) has shown that airbags don't actually offer a net reduction in injuries and deaths compared to the use of seatbelts alone. Note too that race cars don't use them.
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Originally Posted by shopdog
Because when airbags were first mandated, the government and the airbag makers weren't willing to acknowledge that airbags can kill children and small adults. Now that the public is aware airbags can be dangerous, they add the switch and tout it as a great advance.

Note that a recent re-analysis (published in the peer reviewed statistical journal Chance) of actual real world accident data (the NHTSA accident report database) has shown that airbags don't actually offer a net reduction in injuries and deaths compared to the use of seatbelts alone. Note too that race cars don't use them.
I hear ya Dog, makes sense. I'm just wondering why when they added key switches, they didn't just add the weight sensor then?
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Here's some additional information on the subject from a previous thread.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...30&forum_id=74


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