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Old 10-04-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default C7 Rumors from Autoblog - Dual Clutch Trans? AWD?

Sorry if this is a dupe, but I didn't see it.

"Of interest to Corvette fans is a line item for the Toledo OH transmission plant which reads "RWD DCT for NG Corvette will be allocated (2012)". DCT typically refers to dual clutch transmission. That means the C7 'Vette will almost surely get a DCT."

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"Hot on the heels of discovering the next-gen Corvette could be offered with a dual-clutch transmission, word is now filtering out that General Motors may be working on adapting the Haldex-sourced XWD all-wheel-drive system currently available on the 2008 Saab 9-3 for use on Chevy's budget supercar. The Haldex XWD is a robust system, as it can send up to 85% of the engine's power to a single wheel."

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Old 10-04-2007, 10:21 AM
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It is a dupe ... but since you are a dealer you get the benefit of the doubt ...
Old 10-04-2007, 10:22 AM
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Yeah, it was posted earlier. It's a great idea if it's true. A paddle shift manual like the VW/Audi DSG would be incredible! AWD.... theoretically could allow all that power to hook up, but it would be a tough sell to Corvette purists.
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The comments from the second article were great reading. My personal opinion is that Corvette is always going to be RWD with the engine in the front for no other reason than profit. A performance based Mid-Engine Corvette would cost big time to develop and perfect. Transmissions will be a different story with so many exciting possibles; however, I would not expect Corvette to be cutting edge here either, but one could hope!
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Originally Posted by gmoller
Yeah, it was posted earlier. It's a great idea if it's true. A paddle shift manual like the VW/Audi DSG would be incredible! AWD.... theoretically could allow all that power to hook up, but it would be a tough sell to Corvette purists.
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AWD isn't the best for roadraces is it?

I think a 2WD DSG system would be better.
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The comments from the second article were great reading. My personal opinion is that Corvette is always going to be RWD with the engine in the front for no other reason than profit. A performance based Mid-Engine Corvette would cost big time to develop and perfect. Transmissions will be a different story with so many exciting possibles; however, I would not expect Corvette to be cutting edge here either, but one could hope!
Technically, the C6 alread is a "Mid-Engine" since the engine falls between the two axles does not sit on the front axle. It's just not advertised that way.

They could move the engine back just a bit more and advertise it as such.
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Originally Posted by Dave@Kerbeck.com
Technically, the C6 already is a "Mid-Engine" since the engine falls between the two axles does not sit on the front axle. It's just not advertised that way.

They could move the engine back just a bit more and advertise it as such.
You really have to stretch the definition of mid-engine a whole bunch to make that work The traditional definition puts the engine behind the driver and forming the balance point between the axles, while rear engine would be above or behind the rear axle.
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I've gotta say, if I see all these changes made to Corvette for gen 7, C6 will be the last new-bodied Corvette I will own. This coming from someone who is still quite shy of his 30th birthday.

GM: LET YOUR PASSION AND BRAINPOWER LEAD YOU, NOT THE ACCOUNTANTS EXPLOITING ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

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If it were true about the AWD how would I be able to fishtail when making left hand turns at a stop light????

That is one of the best things about this car!!
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Originally Posted by V Amazed
I've gotta say, if I see all these changes made to Corvette for gen 7, C6 will be the last new-bodied Corvette I will own. This coming from someone who is still quite shy of his 30th birthday.

GM: LET YOUR PASSION AND BRAINPOWER LEAD YOU, NOT THE ACCOUNTANTS EXPLOITING ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

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Why would you object to DCT or AWD? For those who want an automatic transmission, a DCT is the best there is. It responds instantly to upshift or downshift commands. Audi, for one, has been using them with great success and rave reviews. As for AWD, what better way to handle even more power and torque and actually get it to the pavement. Both ideas sound like winners to me.
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There's always negative comments about 2nd or third post, to be quite honest, I'm always on the forum and when I'm not things will always get past me. So a 2nd post or even a 3rd isn't bad for those members that don't go thru every post. So just let me say "Thanks Dave" I hadn't seen this previous post.
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As for AWD, what better way to handle even more power and torque and actually get it to the pavement. Both ideas sound like winners to me.
Don't want AWD here!!That would undoubtedly add substantial weight to the corvette,no matter the HP increase!Lower gas mileage too!Leave the AWD to the FERRARI's and LAMBO's and SUBARU's of this world!Gimme V8 RWD and a bunch of TORQUE any day, all day.
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The DSG type tranny would be the ONLY tranny that would make me give up a manual. GM---out-source it to Audi and we will have the best tranny out there bar none
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Originally Posted by mpuzach
Why would you object to DCT or AWD? For those who want an automatic transmission, a DCT is the best there is. It responds instantly to upshift or downshift commands. Audi, for one, has been using them with great success and rave reviews. As for AWD, what better way to handle even more power and torque and actually get it to the pavement. Both ideas sound like winners to me.
Totally agree

It would be great to see them take the Corvette to the next level of performance. If they don't look ahead, they will be left behind

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I'm all for DCT.
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Originally Posted by ben dover
I'm all for DCT.


AWD I'm not so sure about. Yes, its a great idea, but I've yet to see an AWD system that isn't really, really heavy. In many cases it adds around 20% to a car's weight.
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The sooner the better for the DCT in the Corvette. And with the correct programming and software it could be the ONLY transmission in the Corvette, since it could be driven like an automatic.

As for the so-called Corvette Purists: all 300 of the 1953 Corvettes had a 2-speed Powerglide tranny; is THAT what you want ? ? ?

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Old 10-04-2007, 08:13 PM
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I'm not too sure what the "purists" want...

Maybe they just want chrome bumpers, popup headlights, no radio, no A/C, no cup holders, no coupe, no fancy doodads of any sort, get rid of all the carpet/leather, no power this/no power that, fenders optional...and room for two golf bags.

Just fat tires, REAL V8 power that makes noise, goes fast, and cost less than the competition.

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I don't care what the offer, as long as they still offer a true manual (meaning with a clutch). I will not buy a sports car without a true manual as long as I'm physically capable of driving one. I could care less if it runs some race track in Germany 1/2 second faster. That's not what I do with my car.

I also agree with the comments about AWD. Too much weight. I guess if the base car had 500 or more hp, and did not cost any more in todays dollars it would be okay, but I don't see that happening.
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to me that would just ruin the car period and let me be the first to go on the record and say.....it still wont take a C5Z! there i said it.


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