Stock gearing vs Z51 gearing question
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Stock gearing vs Z51 gearing question
As I was going over options yesterday I noticed that the stock gearing shows to be 3.42 and the Z51 option shows to be 2.73. Am I missing something here? I thought the Z51 had the higher gearing for better throttle response?
Can someone please clear this up or explain it to me....thanks.
Can someone please clear this up or explain it to me....thanks.
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Those are rear axle ratios. Bradj is right about their application. (I think automatic buyers can opt for a lower 3.15 ratio, instead of the 2.73.)
The Z51 gear differences are in the transmission gear ratios. I'm pretty sure that the lower gears have lower ratios (higher numbers) for better acceleration and auto-cross performance. The result is sometimes referred to as a wide-ratio transmission.
The Z51 gear differences are in the transmission gear ratios. I'm pretty sure that the lower gears have lower ratios (higher numbers) for better acceleration and auto-cross performance. The result is sometimes referred to as a wide-ratio transmission.
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The 2.73 you are seeing is for automatic (A6) cars only. All manual (MN6) cars which includes Z51 and Z06 have the 3.42. All non-Z51 automatic cars have a 2.56 with the option to order a 2.73. All A6 Z51 cars have a 2.73 standard.
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On a side note:
The Z51 gearing in the tranny makes the 3.42 in the rear act like a 3.91 gear as compared to the stock tranny gearing. A little spunkier off the line.
Elmer
The Z51 gearing in the tranny makes the 3.42 in the rear act like a 3.91 gear as compared to the stock tranny gearing. A little spunkier off the line.
Elmer
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A6 gets 2.56
A6 Z51 (or the perf gear option) gets 2.73
all M6s get 3.43
The A6 Z51 gets a gear change at the differential. The M6 Z51 gets the gear change at the transmission. That help?
A6 Z51 (or the perf gear option) gets 2.73
all M6s get 3.43
The A6 Z51 gets a gear change at the differential. The M6 Z51 gets the gear change at the transmission. That help?
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I know that the Z51 package on the M6 is 3.42 with larger trans gearing to give it more punch then the base or non Z51 cars. Now on the A6 cars with the Z51 the rearend ratio is 2.73 does anyone know if the automatic trans gears are different from the base A6 non Z51 cars?
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..GEAR......Mode..or..Option
............Z06...Std.6-spd...Z51.6-spd...6-spd.Auto...4-spd.Auto
..1st.......2.66....2.66........2.97.... .....4.03........3.06
..2nd.......1.78....1.78........2.07.... .....2.36........1.63
..3rd.......1.30....1.30........1.43.... .....1.53........1.00
..4th.......1.00....1.00........1.00.... .....1.15........0.70
..5th.......0.74....0.74........0.71.... .....0.85
..6th.......0.50....0.50........0.57.... .....0.67
Reverse.....2.90....2.90........3.28.... .....3.06........2.29
Axle Ratio...3.42....3.42........3.42....2.56 (or 2.73)..2.73(or 3.15)
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I know that the Z51 package on the M6 is 3.42 with larger trans gearing to give it more punch then the base or non Z51 cars. Now on the A6 cars with the Z51 the rearend ratio is 2.73 does anyone know if the automatic trans gears are different from the base A6 non Z51 cars?
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I wonder if anyone has changed out their std. C6 gearbox to a Z51 gearbox. $$$$ !
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For 2008 all A6 non Z51 cars have a standard of 2.56 as was mentioned above and can be ordered with a 2.73. All 2008 A6 Z51 optioned cars have a 2.73. 2006 and 2007 A6 cars Z51 or not have a 2.56, period. No difference in the rear end on a Z51 vs. a non Z51 for those years. No option of a performance axle.
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Thanks
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I hear a lot of people in the C6 Tech talking about 4.10 gear upgrade. How does this compare with the Z51 gears? With all the info. posted, I'm not quite sure if they are talking about the same gears.
I don't mean to hijack the thread.
I don't mean to hijack the thread.
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Those are rear axle ratios. Bradj is right about their application. (I think automatic buyers can opt for a lower 3.15 ratio, instead of the 2.73.)
The Z51 gear differences are in the transmission gear ratios. I'm pretty sure that the lower gears have lower ratios (higher numbers) for better acceleration and auto-cross performance. The result is sometimes referred to as a wide-ratio transmission.
The Z51 gear differences are in the transmission gear ratios. I'm pretty sure that the lower gears have lower ratios (higher numbers) for better acceleration and auto-cross performance. The result is sometimes referred to as a wide-ratio transmission.
Back in the day (late 60's and early 70's), the auto-cross manual transmission of choice was the M22, which was a close ratio transmission. This was developed road racing with coarse cut gears, aluminum case and close ratio gears. I believe the thinking was that when down shifting you were higher in the RPM range so you could be back on the power curve sooner.
This thinking makes sense to me, so I am quite interested to hear what the reasoning is that a wide ratio tranny would be better.
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Now you have me confused you are saying that the Z51 package for Automatics in the production years 2006 and 2007 have a 2.56 rearend gearing PERIOD WITH NO OPTION FOR A 2.73??? Why was I told that the Z51 package was with a performance rear axle ratio meaning 2.73, along with the crossed drilled rotors and the performance suspension?