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Old 10-31-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Any engine failures on the LS3 yet?

I was just curious to see if anyone has had any major or minor issues with the LS3. I have read on the Z06 forum that they are having all kinds of issues with the LS7, spinning rods, droping valves, etc... I know the LS2 has been bullet proof so far and want to see how the LS3 is measuring up.
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Originally Posted by vertC6
I was just curious to see if anyone has had any major or minor issues with the LS3. I have read on the Z06 forum that they are having all kinds of issues with the LS7, spinning rods, droping valves, etc... I know the LS2 has been bullet proof so far and want to see how the LS3 is measuring up.
I think you mean "spun bearings" and dropped valves.

In any event,
Old 10-31-2007, 04:25 PM
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Haven't heard of any problems, but its been out for only a few months. Hardly enough time to get them all broken in yet. Isn't the LS3 based on another older GM motor, though? If it is it is probably bullet proof too.
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I just read where a guy had his LS7 for 6 days before he SPUN A ROD on his car.
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Originally Posted by BigJoe
Isn't the LS3 based on another older GM motor, though?
Yes. The terribly antiquainted out-of date LS2.
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Originally Posted by stanleyp
Yes. The terribly antiquainted out-of date LS2.
I don't believe this is the case. I think the LS3 is based on a truck engine design that is different than the LS2 in fundamental ways. I don't know the details of it completely but that's my rudimentary understanding. The LS3 is not an evolution of the LS2 (which indeed the LS7 is) but rather a redesign of a different engine altogether. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong or perhaps add more info.
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Originally Posted by golfbone
I don't believe this is the case. I think the LS3 is based on a truck engine design that is different than the LS2 in fundamental ways. I don't know the details of it completely but that's my rudimentary understanding. The LS3 is not an evolution of the LS2 (which indeed the LS7 is) but rather a redesign of a different engine altogether. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong or perhaps add more info.
I have read that the LS3 was just a bored out LS2 but using some added parts of the LS7.
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Originally Posted by golfbone
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong .
Oh they will, bet on that
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Originally Posted by lilpuu
I have read that the LS3 was just a bored out LS2 but using some added parts of the LS7.
Wrong. You guys really need to do some investigating. There are many web sites detailing all the changes made to produce the LS3. The block is different, the heads are different, the intake is different, the camshaft is different, the rocker arms are different and so on. Some parts are used from the LS7, like the fuel injectors, but for the most part, it is a brand new design. Just because they started with the engineering drawings for the LS2, does not make it a warmed over LS2.
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Are you sure they used a new block, I thought I read it was longer rods and crank shaft to get the added CI. The cam is the same they just added .025 to the intake side of the lift. I am not sure if the pistons are any wider or not, does anyone know? As far as the cylinder walls they are not sleaved like the LS7 are they?
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Yes that LS2 is just a dud.
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The LS3 is based on the Vortec L92 engine.
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Yep, 1970 all over again.

Chevy stuck a truck motor in our beloved icon. Do a search.
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I recently heard that parts for the LS2 are becoming hard to come by. Might have to start checking those wrecking yards...
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Frankly I don't care if they got the motor out of an abandoned Fiat plant. The LS3 so much better than the LS2 in every way but fuel economy that pedigree is the last thing on my mind. Maybe something was wrong with my LS2 because the difference between this and the LS3 is night and day. I really mean that....sometimes I wonder if all was right with my '05 because it had more vibration and seemed like the run up the tach was rather slow compared to the mad rush of the LS3. I often find myself revving to the engine cut off at 6.5K before I've realized it and shifted because it get's up there so much quicker than my '05..which gave me plenty of time...did.
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Originally Posted by Swiftrider08
....The block is different, the heads are different, the intake is different, the camshaft is different, the rocker arms are different...
Your reply reminds me of the Blues Bothers movie...“It’s got a cop motor, cop suspension, cop gears, and cop brakes.”
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Originally Posted by golfbone
Frankly I don't care if they got the motor out of an abandoned Fiat plant. The LS3 so much better than the LS2 in every way but fuel economy that pedigree is the last thing on my mind. Maybe something was wrong with my LS2 because the difference between this and the LS3 is night and day. I really mean that....sometimes I wonder if all was right with my '05 because it had more vibration and seemed like the run up the tach was rather slow compared to the mad rush of the LS3. I often find myself revving to the engine cut off at 6.5K before I've realized it and shifted because it get's up there so much quicker than my '05..which gave me plenty of time...did.
A good friend of mine has an 05 convertible that he feels the same way about. I had two '05s before my 08. About a month after I got my car, I met him for lunch and he was complaining again about how slow his car felt. I took it out and drove it and he was right - it really felt slow compared to mine. I tried to get him to drive mine to see the difference, but he refused to because he's not ready to buy a new car yet, and did not want to be tempted.

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Originally Posted by golfbone
Frankly I don't care if they got the motor out of an abandoned Fiat plant. The LS3 so much better than the LS2 in every way but fuel economy that pedigree is the last thing on my mind. Maybe something was wrong with my LS2 because the difference between this and the LS3 is night and day. I really mean that....sometimes I wonder if all was right with my '05 because it had more vibration and seemed like the run up the tach was rather slow compared to the mad rush of the LS3. I often find myself revving to the engine cut off at 6.5K before I've realized it and shifted because it get's up there so much quicker than my '05..which gave me plenty of time...did.
The first time I wound my 08 out, I hit the rev limiter before I knew it. It's a short time gap btw 5K and 6.5K rpm's thats for sure.
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Originally Posted by vertC6
I just read where a guy had his LS7 for 6 days before he SPUN A ROD on his car.
Actually its a rod knock, unknown cause at this time. It could be a spun bearing or something else.

I love the hype, once case and all of a sudden its 'all kinds' of them are happening. LS7's spin higher and are likely driven harder, neither as good for longevity so they should be expected to have a higher mean failure rate. But I wouldnt say its the norm as is the inference of the thread. There wouldnt be any running around if that was the case.
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Originally Posted by tjl5709
The first time I wound my 08 out, I hit the rev limiter before I knew it. It's a short time gap btw 5K and 6.5K rpm's thats for sure.
This is funny, two guys who've hit the rev limiter.

We need a new thread:"who has hit the rev limiter?"

I know I have. And you are right: that first to second redline comes up very very fast.


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