Castrol Edge - 8X better wear than Mobil 1
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As long as it meets GM4718M.......
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Another vote for needing to meet GM specs. It also needs to be price competitive. I'm interested to hear how they arrived at the "8X." An independent test would be nice too.
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PROBLEM! PROBLEM!
Under the Castrol USA website, entering the word "Edge" since there is no reference to it, gets the following.
I've highlighted the Castrol website's 5W-30 paragraph below:
Grades
Available Grades
Castrol SYNTEC Bottle close-up
SAE 5W–20:
Castrol SYNTEC is the first major full synthetic oil brand to offer a 5W–20 that is specifically formulated to meet the needs of Ford, Chrysler, Honda and Toyota 5W–20 service. SYNTEC 5W–20 provides excellent cold weather performance and exceeds the stringent performance, fuel economy and fuel economy retention requirements of the ILSAC GF–4 specification. SYNTEC 5W–20 also exceeds the stringent Ford WSS–M2C930–A and Ford WSS–M2C153–H specifications, and exceeds all the requirements of ILSAC GF–4 and GF–3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils. Exceeds API SM.
SAE 0W–20
Castrol SYNTEC 0W-20 is formulated the meet the needs of modern fuel-efficient vehicles including hybrids, where SAE 0W-20 is endorsed by the manufacturer. SYNTEC 0W-20 is a full synthetic oil that helps extend engine life while delivering maximum fuel economy. SYNTEC 0W-20 is suitable for newer Toyota, Honda, Chrysler and Mercury models. Because of its low viscosity, SYNTEC 0W-20 provides excellent protection in low temperatures. API service SM. SYNTEC 0W-20 meets catalyst/emissions system compatibility and all requirements of ILSAC GF-4/GF-3/GF-2.
SAE 0W–30:
Castrol SYNTEC 0W–30 European Formula is engineered to meet the Mercedes Benz 229.5 specification. The 0W–30 viscosity grade is ideal for winter conditions where low temperature pumpability is required. A unique, low–temperature formulation provides exceptional pumpability in cold weather and allows for unaided engine starts down to –40ºF. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A3, B3, B4; VW 502 00, 505 00, 503 01; MB 229.1, 229.3, 229.5; BMW LL–01; GM–LLA–025, GM–LL–B–025 and the engine protection requirements of ILSAC GF–3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils.
SAE 5W–30:
is the most recommended grade in today's new cars. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SM, SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A1, A5, B1, B5, GM 6094M; Ford WSS M2C929–A and all requirements of ILSAC GF–4 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. In extreme tests, Castrol SYNTEC 5W-30 maintains maximum horsepower longer than the leading conventional oil.
Note: it is possible this oil is so new that there are no tech specs for it. but, the ireland castrol site only lists Edge as 0W, and it's not GM4718M specced.
Under the Castrol USA website, entering the word "Edge" since there is no reference to it, gets the following.
I've highlighted the Castrol website's 5W-30 paragraph below:
Grades
Available Grades
Castrol SYNTEC Bottle close-up
SAE 5W–20:
Castrol SYNTEC is the first major full synthetic oil brand to offer a 5W–20 that is specifically formulated to meet the needs of Ford, Chrysler, Honda and Toyota 5W–20 service. SYNTEC 5W–20 provides excellent cold weather performance and exceeds the stringent performance, fuel economy and fuel economy retention requirements of the ILSAC GF–4 specification. SYNTEC 5W–20 also exceeds the stringent Ford WSS–M2C930–A and Ford WSS–M2C153–H specifications, and exceeds all the requirements of ILSAC GF–4 and GF–3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils. Exceeds API SM.
SAE 0W–20
Castrol SYNTEC 0W-20 is formulated the meet the needs of modern fuel-efficient vehicles including hybrids, where SAE 0W-20 is endorsed by the manufacturer. SYNTEC 0W-20 is a full synthetic oil that helps extend engine life while delivering maximum fuel economy. SYNTEC 0W-20 is suitable for newer Toyota, Honda, Chrysler and Mercury models. Because of its low viscosity, SYNTEC 0W-20 provides excellent protection in low temperatures. API service SM. SYNTEC 0W-20 meets catalyst/emissions system compatibility and all requirements of ILSAC GF-4/GF-3/GF-2.
SAE 0W–30:
Castrol SYNTEC 0W–30 European Formula is engineered to meet the Mercedes Benz 229.5 specification. The 0W–30 viscosity grade is ideal for winter conditions where low temperature pumpability is required. A unique, low–temperature formulation provides exceptional pumpability in cold weather and allows for unaided engine starts down to –40ºF. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A3, B3, B4; VW 502 00, 505 00, 503 01; MB 229.1, 229.3, 229.5; BMW LL–01; GM–LLA–025, GM–LL–B–025 and the engine protection requirements of ILSAC GF–3 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils.
SAE 5W–30:
is the most recommended grade in today's new cars. Exceeds all car and light truck manufacturer's warranty requirements for the protection of gasoline, diesel and turbocharged engines where API SM, SL, SJ, SH, CF or CD is recommended. Exceeds European ACEA: A1, A5, B1, B5, GM 6094M; Ford WSS M2C929–A and all requirements of ILSAC GF–4 for API Certified Gasoline Engine Oils and meets Energy Conserving Standards. In extreme tests, Castrol SYNTEC 5W-30 maintains maximum horsepower longer than the leading conventional oil.
Note: it is possible this oil is so new that there are no tech specs for it. but, the ireland castrol site only lists Edge as 0W, and it's not GM4718M specced.
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I sold a Pontiac Bonneville with 190,000 miles on it and it still didn't use oil. It was the old Buick V6. That said I don't have a problem with Mobil 1 wear. I did; however, rotate a bearing on my '99 Blazer 4.3 V6 using 40% Mobil 1. I have heard of 4.3 troubles before so I don't blame the oil. I would guess one can google this new oil for quantitative tests to be published. If they don't show up (ever) then it is hype of course.
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Okay I googled "castrol edge" and from a non-castrol site I found the claim that it does meet the Corvette spec as 5W-30.
Castrol EDGE is an advanced, proprietary formula that provides performance and protection in extreme conditions such as towing, hauling, high and low tempuratures, rapid acceleration, and stop-and-go traffic.
Guaranteed extended drain interval protection for 15,000 miles, or one year, whichever comes first. Performance and protection that outperforms conventional, high mileage and synthetic blend motor oils.
API Service SM/SL/SJ/CF; ACEA: A1/B1, A5/B5; ILSAC GF4; GM4718M, GM6094M; FORD WSS M2C929-A
Castrol EDGE is an advanced, proprietary formula that provides performance and protection in extreme conditions such as towing, hauling, high and low tempuratures, rapid acceleration, and stop-and-go traffic.
Guaranteed extended drain interval protection for 15,000 miles, or one year, whichever comes first. Performance and protection that outperforms conventional, high mileage and synthetic blend motor oils.
API Service SM/SL/SJ/CF; ACEA: A1/B1, A5/B5; ILSAC GF4; GM4718M, GM6094M; FORD WSS M2C929-A
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please show us where, I couldn't find that reference. thx.
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Castrol SYNTEC is not a full synthetic........I will never again use a Castrol product in anything that I own......for years, I purchased and they sold their SYNTEC as a full synthetic............it is mineral oil based, folks, and they change one little thing in the OIL's formulation and call it synthetic..........do the research on this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=castr...ient=firefox-a
I felt betrayed by Castrol when I found this out, and swore to never use their products (or trust their advertising claims) ever again!!
http://www.google.com/search?q=castr...ient=firefox-a
I felt betrayed by Castrol when I found this out, and swore to never use their products (or trust their advertising claims) ever again!!
Last edited by C6NRED; 01-31-2009 at 12:57 PM.
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Castrol SYNTEC is not a full synthetic........I will never use a Castrol product in anything that I own......for years they sold their SYNTEC as a full synthetic............it is mineral oil based, folks, and they change one little thing in the OIL's formulation and call it synthetic..........do the research on this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=castr...ient=firefox-a
I felt betrayed by Castrol when I found this out, and swore to never use their products (or trust their advertising claims) ever again!!
http://www.google.com/search?q=castr...ient=firefox-a
I felt betrayed by Castrol when I found this out, and swore to never use their products (or trust their advertising claims) ever again!!
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Thanks for the validation on this..........I try to be positive (or not be TOO negative) here on the forum....but I still have my bad feelings about Castrol's deceptive practices and definitions of "synthetic"...as you can probably tell!!!
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