Ultra Simple PAL Installation planned
08-11-2009, 06:11 PM
#1
Emerging Vendor
Thread Starter
Ultra Simple PAL Installation is here!
For those of you who have been following this thread:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-adapters.html
and reading the details about the installation of the PAL, some of you may be deciding against purchasing a PAL because of the difficulty and/or expense of installing it.
I now offer a wiring harness that will allow you to install a PAL in less than 30 minutes, with the following features:
1. No removal of the center console or Nav unit.
2. No cutting of factory wire harness.
3. No difficult splice pack access.
4. No difficult routing of cables to the electrical panel.
5. No modification of the glove box.
6. Charging of all late model Ipods and Iphones.
7. Console access of Ipods and Iphones.
All of the above will be possible with a new PAL wiring harness that plugs into the XM receiver rather than the back of the Nav unit. All you will have to do is unplug the connector at the XM receiver and plug it into the new wiring harness. Then plug a connector on the harness into the XM receiver. The PAL module will be installed to the rear of the XM receiver in the coupe/Z06s and behind the waterfall in the convertibles.
The Ipod cable that comes with the PAL is only 4' long, so it won't reach the glove box in any Vette. But the iSimple 4' charging adapter:
http://isimplesolutions.com/CES/ReVolt.asp
can be purchased to not only extend the Ipod cable but also allow charging of all late model Ipods and Iphones. This cable can be routed to the console area along the passenger seat to connect to your Ipod or Iphone. Convertible owners who don't need the charging adapter for their older Ipods/Iphones can get by without the extension cable.
You can purchase the extension here:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
I offer the new PAL XM wiring harness for $35, plus $5 for Priority Mail shipping.
I'd like to know about how many Corvette owners would be interested in this option so I can work with the harness supplier. I know a lot of owners have already purchased their PALs and have them installed per the GM instructions, but there may be quite a few owners who are still interested, especially since the installation will be so simple. If you are, please email, rather than PM, me.
Coupe/Z06 owners will have to access the XM receiver above the left rear wheel well, which is easy if you just pull back the carpet. Convertible owners have access behind the waterfall, which is also easy to remove if you follow the instructions on the website:
http://www.kawal.net/PAL%20install.htm
It would have been nice if GM could have offered this installation option, but there are a number of reasons why this couldn't happen. The PAL is a neat product, but installation is considerably more difficult than that for most of the aftermarket Ipod adapters. This new wiring harness will make it just as simple to install as the aftermarket adapters.
Update as of 9/5/09: Shipping of harnesses began 9/3/09.
Ray
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-adapters.html
and reading the details about the installation of the PAL, some of you may be deciding against purchasing a PAL because of the difficulty and/or expense of installing it.
I now offer a wiring harness that will allow you to install a PAL in less than 30 minutes, with the following features:
1. No removal of the center console or Nav unit.
2. No cutting of factory wire harness.
3. No difficult splice pack access.
4. No difficult routing of cables to the electrical panel.
5. No modification of the glove box.
6. Charging of all late model Ipods and Iphones.
7. Console access of Ipods and Iphones.
All of the above will be possible with a new PAL wiring harness that plugs into the XM receiver rather than the back of the Nav unit. All you will have to do is unplug the connector at the XM receiver and plug it into the new wiring harness. Then plug a connector on the harness into the XM receiver. The PAL module will be installed to the rear of the XM receiver in the coupe/Z06s and behind the waterfall in the convertibles.
The Ipod cable that comes with the PAL is only 4' long, so it won't reach the glove box in any Vette. But the iSimple 4' charging adapter:
http://isimplesolutions.com/CES/ReVolt.asp
can be purchased to not only extend the Ipod cable but also allow charging of all late model Ipods and Iphones. This cable can be routed to the console area along the passenger seat to connect to your Ipod or Iphone. Convertible owners who don't need the charging adapter for their older Ipods/Iphones can get by without the extension cable.
You can purchase the extension here:
http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=1337
I offer the new PAL XM wiring harness for $35, plus $5 for Priority Mail shipping.
I'd like to know about how many Corvette owners would be interested in this option so I can work with the harness supplier. I know a lot of owners have already purchased their PALs and have them installed per the GM instructions, but there may be quite a few owners who are still interested, especially since the installation will be so simple. If you are, please email, rather than PM, me.
Coupe/Z06 owners will have to access the XM receiver above the left rear wheel well, which is easy if you just pull back the carpet. Convertible owners have access behind the waterfall, which is also easy to remove if you follow the instructions on the website:
http://www.kawal.net/PAL%20install.htm
It would have been nice if GM could have offered this installation option, but there are a number of reasons why this couldn't happen. The PAL is a neat product, but installation is considerably more difficult than that for most of the aftermarket Ipod adapters. This new wiring harness will make it just as simple to install as the aftermarket adapters.
Update as of 9/5/09: Shipping of harnesses began 9/3/09.
Ray
Last edited by kawal; 09-14-2009 at 11:32 PM.
08-11-2009, 06:28 PM
#2
Team Owner
Great minds Ray. I was trying to get the Delphi and Yazaki connector information put together to do the same thing of sorts for you. I for one would be interested. I haven't purchased a PAL yet....long story, but I hope to in the next month so put me on the list of interested parties depending upon your timetable. I know the quality of your work so the $25.00 will be well worth it. I'll gladly recommend it to everyone I know that is looking for one.
A similar option was considered for the PAL but the problem is in all the possible variations. The coupe, convertible, XM no XM, nav, no nav (later date availability) and the only common thread was the splice pack installation. They had certain constraints that they had to work within for the dealer install.
Paul
A similar option was considered for the PAL but the problem is in all the possible variations. The coupe, convertible, XM no XM, nav, no nav (later date availability) and the only common thread was the splice pack installation. They had certain constraints that they had to work within for the dealer install.
Paul
Last edited by talon90; 08-11-2009 at 06:31 PM.
08-11-2009, 06:45 PM
#3
Emerging Vendor
Thread Starter
Great minds Ray. I was trying to get the Delphi and Yazaki connector information put together to do the same thing of sorts for you. I for one would be interested. I haven't purchased a PAL yet....long story, but I hope to in the next month so put me on the list of interested parties depending upon your timetable. I know the quality of your work so the $25.00 will be well worth it. I'll gladly recommend it to everyone I know that is looking for one.
A similar option was considered for the PAL but the problem is in all the possible variations. The coupe, convertible, XM no XM, nav, no nav (later date availability) and the only common thread was the splice pack installation. They had certain constraints that they had to work within for the dealer install.
Paul
A similar option was considered for the PAL but the problem is in all the possible variations. The coupe, convertible, XM no XM, nav, no nav (later date availability) and the only common thread was the splice pack installation. They had certain constraints that they had to work within for the dealer install.
Paul
Your wire kit with the Yazaki terminal is on its way to you already. I wish I had a date for these new harnesses, but I'll have to wait a bit until I can announce that.
One thing to note is that this new installation alternative will not allow a glove box installation because the Ipod cable is too short to reach from the XM receiver location. However, when I previously had an aftermarket Ipod adapter installed, I found it very convenient to have the Ipod connector laying alongside the passenger seat where I could pick it up and plug it into the Ipod. I then laid the Ipod on the center console for easy access. If owners are content with this arrangement, this new installation will be ideal.
Ray
Last edited by kawal; 08-11-2009 at 06:55 PM.
08-11-2009, 06:54 PM
#5
Melting Slicks
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I have a 2006 w no on star. It has XM and the bose 6 CD changer. I would be interested in what you speak of as the NEW GM PAL will not work with the 06s plus I dont know if it charges and works with the Iphone and latest other MP3 gadgets
08-11-2009, 07:06 PM
#7
Team Owner
The new PAL works with an '06. If you have a Navigation system and XM in the car (need not be active) the install is plug and play. If you do not have a navigation system the PAL will currently not work for you. The current PAL requires the navigation radio touch screen as it's primary user interface. There were plans to release a unit for the other radios but it does not work with them currently. It will NOT charge the latest generation iPhone's or iPod Touch. This is to do with Apple's change to their charging protocol. It does not work with any other MP3 gadgets other than those manufactured by Apple.
08-11-2009, 07:13 PM
#8
Le Mans Master
I went the $12 RS cable route and spliced into my XM module in the back. Does this cable you're working on do that and charge the iPod as well? I'm not interested in the PAL...I use play lists, etc., to me that's a lot of money just to access the iPod through the stereo and I don't have NAV on mine anyway. But it would be convenient if it charged the iPod in the car.
08-11-2009, 07:20 PM
#11
Melting Slicks
I am definite interested. I decided not get PAL because of the installation process. I purchased the SPEC PA11-Vette instead. The unit works well as you know. I run it in the direct mode.
08-11-2009, 07:50 PM
#14
Emerging Vendor
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08-11-2009, 07:54 PM
#15
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Thread Starter
I'm really asking for interest right now, because I don't yet have access to the cables. It might even be a month or two, so I hate to have you wait. Maybe I'll know something later in the week, but I'll put something on the forum when I can.
Ray
08-11-2009, 07:59 PM
#16
Emerging Vendor
Thread Starter
I went the $12 RS cable route and spliced into my XM module in the back. Does this cable you're working on do that and charge the iPod as well? I'm not interested in the PAL...I use play lists, etc., to me that's a lot of money just to access the iPod through the stereo and I don't have NAV on mine anyway. But it would be convenient if it charged the iPod in the car.
But for those with NAV and XM (or XM ready, with the cable), the PAL works nicely with Playlists and it will also charge the Ipod in the car. The latest generation Ipods and Iphones, however, do need a charging adapter to convert from 12 volts to 5 volts, as explained on the website.
Ray
08-11-2009, 08:54 PM
#19
Drifting
I am in
Thanks Ray
Thanks Ray
