GM recalls Roof .. about time
#1
Drifting
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GM recalls Roof .. about time
I thought this was common knowledge for months?
December 30, 2009
General Motors is recalling certain Corvette models equipped with removal roofs. The adhesive between the roof panel and the frame could separate and could detach from the vehicle, possibly causing an accident.
Dealers will install a newly-designed roof panel free of charge when the recall begins in January 2010.
Affected models are 2005-2007 Corvette and 2005-2006 Corvette Z06s with removable roofs.
Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-630-2438 or at www.gmownercenter.com.
Consumers may contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153) or at www.safercar.gov.
Read more: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recal...#ixzz0bH6RNlMp
December 30, 2009
General Motors is recalling certain Corvette models equipped with removal roofs. The adhesive between the roof panel and the frame could separate and could detach from the vehicle, possibly causing an accident.
Dealers will install a newly-designed roof panel free of charge when the recall begins in January 2010.
Affected models are 2005-2007 Corvette and 2005-2006 Corvette Z06s with removable roofs.
Owners may contact Chevrolet at 1-800-630-2438 or at www.gmownercenter.com.
Consumers may contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY: 1-800-424-9153) or at www.safercar.gov.
Read more: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recal...#ixzz0bH6RNlMp
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Interesting. I just noticed a crawl on CNN about 22,000 Corvettes being recalled and jumped on CF. I wonder why they stopped with the 2007 models. This must not be related to the roof popping problem which is still present in the newest models, but it sure would be nice if they fixed that problem too.
#3
Drifting
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I think my problem was fixed by using the diy c-clip. I’ve not noticed any popping since I added the clip. I also think they have a replacement latch for your top.
I might be wrong if you are talking about some other problem?
BTW .. you can do a search here to find more posts.
I might be wrong if you are talking about some other problem?
BTW .. you can do a search here to find more posts.
#4
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Interesting. I just noticed a crawl on CNN about 22,000 Corvettes being recalled and jumped on CF. I wonder why they stopped with the 2007 models. This must not be related to the roof popping problem which is still present in the newest models, but it sure would be nice if they fixed that problem too.
This recall is specifically targeting cars with panels that were repaired under the first campaign by injecting an adhesive foam instead of replacing the roof panel. That repair is what is being called in to question because a number of repaired panels have subsequently failed.
Regarding the noisy roof, have you had the new handles installed?
#7
Instructor
Wasn't this problem recalled earlier? I know the previous owner of my 2006 Coupe had taken it in for the following:
1. NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V181000
Recall Date:
2006-05-24
Summary:
ON CERTAIN 2005-2006 CHEVROLET CORVETTES EQUIPPED WITH PAINTED ROOFS, THE ADHESIVE BETWEEN THE ROOF PANEL AND THE FRAME MAY SEPARATE.
Consequences:
IF THERE IS A COMPLETE SEPARATION, THE ROOF PANEL MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE AND IT COULD STRIKE ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CAUSE INJURY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE FOR POTENTIAL ROOF PANEL-TO- FRAME SEPARATION AND ADD THE SPECIFIED ADHESIVE FOAM OR REPLACE THE ROOF WITH ONE HAVING ADHESIVE FOAM. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 19, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438.
Component Affected:
STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS
Potential Cars Affected:
30,793
1. NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V181000
Recall Date:
2006-05-24
Summary:
ON CERTAIN 2005-2006 CHEVROLET CORVETTES EQUIPPED WITH PAINTED ROOFS, THE ADHESIVE BETWEEN THE ROOF PANEL AND THE FRAME MAY SEPARATE.
Consequences:
IF THERE IS A COMPLETE SEPARATION, THE ROOF PANEL MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE AND IT COULD STRIKE ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CAUSE INJURY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE FOR POTENTIAL ROOF PANEL-TO- FRAME SEPARATION AND ADD THE SPECIFIED ADHESIVE FOAM OR REPLACE THE ROOF WITH ONE HAVING ADHESIVE FOAM. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 19, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438.
Component Affected:
STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS
Potential Cars Affected:
30,793
#8
Le Mans Master
Wasn't this problem recalled earlier? I know the previous owner of my 2006 Coupe had taken it in for the following:
1. NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V181000
Recall Date:
2006-05-24
Summary:
ON CERTAIN 2005-2006 CHEVROLET CORVETTES EQUIPPED WITH PAINTED ROOFS, THE ADHESIVE BETWEEN THE ROOF PANEL AND THE FRAME MAY SEPARATE.
Consequences:
IF THERE IS A COMPLETE SEPARATION, THE ROOF PANEL MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE AND IT COULD STRIKE ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CAUSE INJURY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE FOR POTENTIAL ROOF PANEL-TO- FRAME SEPARATION AND ADD THE SPECIFIED ADHESIVE FOAM OR REPLACE THE ROOF WITH ONE HAVING ADHESIVE FOAM. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 19, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438.
Component Affected:
STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS
Potential Cars Affected:
30,793
1. NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V181000
Recall Date:
2006-05-24
Summary:
ON CERTAIN 2005-2006 CHEVROLET CORVETTES EQUIPPED WITH PAINTED ROOFS, THE ADHESIVE BETWEEN THE ROOF PANEL AND THE FRAME MAY SEPARATE.
Consequences:
IF THERE IS A COMPLETE SEPARATION, THE ROOF PANEL MAY DETACH FROM THE VEHICLE AND IT COULD STRIKE ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CAUSE INJURY AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT VEHICLES FREE OF CHARGE FOR POTENTIAL ROOF PANEL-TO- FRAME SEPARATION AND ADD THE SPECIFIED ADHESIVE FOAM OR REPLACE THE ROOF WITH ONE HAVING ADHESIVE FOAM. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 19, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT CHEVROLET AT 1-800-630-2438.
Component Affected:
STRUCTURE:BODY:ROOF AND PILLARS
Potential Cars Affected:
30,793
#10
Le Mans Master
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...f-may-fly-off/
This is a complete explanation of what happened. It's an interesting read. The Z06 is, apparently, involved in this recall.
This is a complete explanation of what happened. It's an interesting read. The Z06 is, apparently, involved in this recall.
#11
Instructor
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...f-may-fly-off/
This is a complete explanation of what happened. It's an interesting read. The Z06 is, apparently, involved in this recall.
This is a complete explanation of what happened. It's an interesting read. The Z06 is, apparently, involved in this recall.
#12
Race Director
This latest recall is due to GM finally having to admit that refoaming the polycarbonate plastic roof panels used on MY2005 thru early production MY2007 is not a permanent and/or reliable fix. The only reliable fix is replacement with SMC plastic roof panels which GM changed to a few months after MY2007 production started. All replacement roofs are SMC. GM has SMC experience with vette body panels dating back to the early 1970s. Polycarbonate roof panels was a GM science project gone bad.
#13
Drifting
This latest recall is due to GM finally having to admit that refoaming the polycarbonate plastic roof panels used on MY2005 thru early production MY2007 is not a permanent and/or reliable fix. The only reliable fix is replacement with SMC plastic roof panels which GM changed to a few months after MY2007 production started. All replacement roofs are SMC. GM has SMC experience with vette body panels dating back to the early 1970s. Polycarbonate roof panels was a GM science project gone bad.
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I guess I'm a little slow on the uptake. I didn't think the ZO6 had a removable roof panel on any year. I have a 2007 and I have seen two versions of the recall. One says ZO6 2005-2006 and another says 2006-2007. Which is it?
#16
Team Owner
The Z06 roof panel while not "removable" is still the same painted panel glued to a magnesium frame with an adhesive as the coupe. It is simply bolted in to the car. The recall isn't because of a problem with only removable panels it is subject (due to the original delamination problem) to any of the roof panels that were held on to the frame by adhesive.
Many of these painted panels (Z06 included) showed signs of delamination and GM's first round at addressing this was by injecting an adhesive foam in teh cavity between the frame and painted panel. This recall (different from the first recall) is to address the fact that the adhesive foam injection may not have worked in some, most or all cases.
#17
Race Director
The former is a clerical error as there was no 2005 Z06. The Z06 actually has a separate roof panel that is bolted in place at the factory. It is removable but not intended to be removable by the owner. It is subject to failure just like a targa roof coupe. Your 2007 Z06 might be affected if it was built in the first couple of months or so of 2007 production. The key is whether or not your car was built early enough to still got the polycarbonate plastic roof skin or the later SMC plastic. I can not give you a definitive VIN or calendar date as to when GM switched production to SMC roof panels. My 2006 Z06 had its roof replaced just last week. If you can peek behind the headliner, the polycarbonate plastic is black in appearance and the SMC plastic is white in appearance as I have been told.
#18
Race Director
The Z06 was not made in 2005 so that takes care of whether or not the 2005 Z06 was included (it isn't, there isn't one.)
The Z06 roof panel while not "removable" is still the same painted panel glued to a magnesium frame with an adhesive as the coupe. It is simply bolted in to the car. The recall isn't because of a problem with only removable panels it is subject (due to the original delamination problem) to any of the roof panels that were held on to the frame by adhesive.
Many of these painted panels (Z06 included) showed signs of delamination and GM's first round at addressing this was by injecting an adhesive foam in teh cavity between the frame and painted panel. This recall (different from the first recall) is to address the fact that the adhesive foam injection may not have worked in some, most or all cases.
The Z06 roof panel while not "removable" is still the same painted panel glued to a magnesium frame with an adhesive as the coupe. It is simply bolted in to the car. The recall isn't because of a problem with only removable panels it is subject (due to the original delamination problem) to any of the roof panels that were held on to the frame by adhesive.
Many of these painted panels (Z06 included) showed signs of delamination and GM's first round at addressing this was by injecting an adhesive foam in teh cavity between the frame and painted panel. This recall (different from the first recall) is to address the fact that the adhesive foam injection may not have worked in some, most or all cases.
#19
Team Owner
The former is a clerical error as there was no 2005 Z06. The Z06 actually has a separate roof panel that is bolted in place at the factory. It is removable but not intended to be removable by the owner. It is subject to failure just like a targa roof coupe. Your 2007 Z06 might be affected if it was built in the first couple of months or so of 2007 production. The key is whether or not your car was built early enough to still got the polycarbonate plastic roof skin or the later SMC plastic. I can not give you a definitive VIN or calendar date as to when GM switched production to SMC roof panels. My 2006 Z06 had its roof replaced just last week. If you can peek behind the headliner, the polycarbonate plastic is black in appearance and the SMC plastic is white in appearance as I have been told.
But in any event many CF members over the years have reported their repaired roofs were still delaminating.
Tom
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Don't know which one mine is, built 11/18/2006, I've always kept an eye for any problems and none have appeared. I guess it's a wait and see in my case. I have the dual roof option so I won't go topless for any amount of time.
Update: Just peeled back the headliner a bit and it's white so I assume I have the newer panel?
Update: Just peeled back the headliner a bit and it's white so I assume I have the newer panel?
Last edited by Road Rage; 12-31-2009 at 01:15 PM.