Go Back   Corvette Forum > C6 Corvette, 2005 - 2013 > C6 Corvette General Discussion
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ Vendor Directory
Search
C6 Corvette General Discussion
General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech Sponsored by
PFYC

Welcome to Corvetteforum.com!
Welcome to Corvetteforum.com.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, join Corvetteforum.com today!


Corvette Store
 
 
C7 Parts & Accessories
C6 Parts & Accessories
C5 Parts & Accessories
C4 Parts & Accessories
C3 Parts & Accessories
C2 Parts & Accessories
C1 Parts & Accessories
Wheels & Tires
Sponsored Ads
 
 
Vendor Directory
  
Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-12-2010, 04:49 PM   #21
tmdnhusa
CF Member
 
Member Since: May 2010
Default Hydrolock

Had a MC that hydrolocked. I turned it over and pulled the bottom of 2 pistons off. Have the car checked by a competent mechanic.
tmdnhusa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 04:52 PM   #22
cthusker
CF Senior Member
Support Corvetteforum!
 
cthusker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2005
Location: North Western Connecticut
Default

I recommend getting your car on a lift and inspect everything under there before starting it. Might have some unseen damage and perhaps it's doing you a favor not starting at the moment. Was there any chance ingested water? I'd just be real certain there isn't damage that might be made worse with running that engine...
cthusker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 08:41 PM   #23
btstone84
CF Member
 
Member Since: May 2009
Default

same thbing happen to me recently, when i try to start my car all the power cuts off and u hear the starter click. then the starter clicks again and the power cuts back on,,,,is this just a faulty starter
btstone84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 08:59 PM   #24
AORoads
CF Senior Member
 
AORoads's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Northern, VA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cthusker View Post
I recommend getting your car on a lift and inspect everything under there before starting it. Might have some unseen damage and perhaps it's doing you a favor not starting at the moment. Was there any chance ingested water? I'd just be real certain there isn't damage that might be made worse with running that engine...
I was gonna pm you, Craig....

Said something about Varraram and lots of water on the road.....could be water or possibly a damaged starter motor from the mud off road?
AORoads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 09:18 PM   #25
Silver05GTO
CF Senior Member
 
Silver05GTO's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2006
Default

I thought Vararams were totally safe? Hydrolocked motors with a Vararam were a lie?????

OP, take the intake off and inspect the maf and manifold area for any signs of water/mud/crap in general. From the sounds of it the motor drank liquid........
Silver05GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 09:26 PM   #26
FrankTank
CF Senior Member
CI 7-8-9-11 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
 
FrankTank's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Buffalo Grove IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO View Post
I thought Vararams were totally safe? Hydrolocked motors with a Vararam were a lie?????

OP, take the intake off and inspect the maf and manifold area for any signs of water/mud/crap in general. From the sounds of it the motor drank liquid........
They are safe,, problem is one isolated case, and everyone thinks they will hydrolock the motor. Typical forum band-wagon.

I love how people just speculate away. You would have to drive through a puddle of water over the nose of the car, or close to that to suck enough water to hydrolock it...and if you drive through water that deep you'll hydrolock the motor with the stock intake...so all the vararam alarmist need to chill out for a sec until the OP comes back.

If he had an off road bumpy hydroplane excursion. could be any number of things,,,starter wires severed, starter messed up, any number of electronic things.
Sure it could by hydrolocked, we dont know for sure though. Plus if it is hydrolocked due to a vararam...its not gonna stop me from buying one..agian if he sucked that much water in or drove through that much sht, it would be locked with the stock intake.

Lets wait to hear back from the OP

Last edited by FrankTank; 07-14-2010 at 09:29 PM.
FrankTank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 09:45 PM   #27
Silver05GTO
CF Senior Member
 
Silver05GTO's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTank View Post
They are safe,, problem is one isolated case, and everyone thinks they will hydrolock the motor. Typical forum band-wagon.

I love how people just speculate away. You would have to drive through a puddle of water over the nose of the car, or close to that to suck enough water to hydrolock it...and if you drive through water that deep you'll hydrolock the motor with the stock intake...so all the vararam alarmist need to chill out for a sec until the OP comes back.

If he had an off road bumpy hydroplane excursion. could be any number of things,,,starter wires severed, starter messed up, any number of electronic things.
Sure it could by hydrolocked, we dont know for sure though. Plus if it is hydrolocked due to a vararam...its not gonna stop me from buying one..agian if he sucked that much water in or drove through that much sht, it would be locked with the stock intake.

Lets wait to hear back from the OP
I used to think the way you did.......until in ankle deep water ie: 3-4inches....my vararam sucked in enough to coat the maf honeycomb in water and ingest it into the manifold on my former 2007 LS2.

All it took was one pop-up thunderstorm to radically effect my feelings of driving with a Vararam in any kind of bad weather.

Every summer we see posts like this......I remember last year 3-4 vettes hydrolocked on the way to Carlisle......noone wanted to say which intake they were running despite my repeated questions.......maybe due to insurance and possible warranty implications...at least a couple of those C6's were towed to performance shops in NY.....form your own conclusions on if they were running stock intake or aftermarket with cut shroud.

All I'm saying is there is a much higher risk of ingesting water running a vararam then the stock or a top breathing intake. It's simple facts...you cannot place an intake scoop another 5 inches lower and have the same hydrolock risk as stock, fooling yourself to believe the risk is the same.
__________________
2013 MX-5 Club PRHT
Previous cars:1995 Taurus SHO, 1995 3000GT VR4, 2005 Pontiac GTO, 2007 Corvette C6 Z51 2006 LMB Z06
Silver05GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 09:50 PM   #28
FrankTank
CF Senior Member
CI 7-8-9-11 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
 
FrankTank's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Buffalo Grove IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver05GTO View Post
I used to think the way you did.......until in ankle deep water ie: 3-4inches....my vararam sucked in enough to coat the maf honeycomb in water and ingest it into the manifold on my former 2007 LS2.

All it took was one pop-up thunderstorm to radically effect my feelings of driving with a Vararam in any kind of bad weather.

Every summer we see posts like this......I remember last year 3-4 vettes hydrolocked on the way to Carlisle......noone wanted to say which intake they were running despite my repeated questions.......maybe due to insurance and possible warranty implications...at least a couple of those C6's were towed to performance shops in NY.....form your own conclusions on if they were running stock intake or aftermarket with cut shroud.

All I'm saying is there is a much higher risk of ingesting water running a vararam then the stock or a top breathing intake. It's simple facts...you cannot place an intake scoop another 5 inches lower and have the same hydrolock risk as stock, fooling yourself to believe the risk is the same.
I can see where you are coming from, I guess some people get lucky with them and some don't. I had one on my C5 for 3 years and drove through numerous heavy down-pours and never had an issue. I'll agree there is a greater chance with the Vararam, sure that makes sense due to the design. I guess I rarely have seen posts about it, maybe its like you said people are not talking about it due to warranty issues or risks of problems and exposure. 3 hydrolocks on the way to carlisle? I wonder if they indeed where all running Vararams..
FrankTank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 09:56 PM   #29
Silver05GTO
CF Senior Member
 
Silver05GTO's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTank View Post
I can see where you are coming from, I guess some people get lucky with them and some don't. I had one on my C5 for 3 years and drove through numerous heavy down-pours and never had an issue. I'll agree there is a greater chance with the Vararam, sure that makes sense due to the design.
It's a bit of a crap shoot, I drove in many rainstorms and never had a problem (that I knew of, i didn't check the see if water had begun to climb the intake airbridge after a non-eventful drive in rain, though the lower scoop always had a small puddle of water and wet around the mouth) but what was different was the standing water on the road which wasn't near enough to cover the nose was just enough to be sucked up by the lower scoop vararam.
__________________
2013 MX-5 Club PRHT
Previous cars:1995 Taurus SHO, 1995 3000GT VR4, 2005 Pontiac GTO, 2007 Corvette C6 Z51 2006 LMB Z06
Silver05GTO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 11:21 PM   #30
Frosty-Z06
CF Senior Member
 
Frosty-Z06's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2010
Location: Austin TX
Default

Let us know how it turns out. I'd had to jump on the band wagon and say hydrolock but that's just my 2 cents. If you were going slow and breaking foot off accelerator you might be ok!

Good Luck!

Let us know how it turns out.
Frosty-Z06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 11:29 PM   #31
stockticker
CF Senior Member
 
stockticker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2009
Default

GM will void ur warranty if there's really major damage due to the intake, they are strict these days...put the stock one back on and go to the dealer for warranty...hope u dont have an aftermarket tune either
stockticker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 11:30 PM   #32
cadguymark
CF Senior Member
 
cadguymark's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Land of 10,000 taxes
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTank View Post
They are safe,, problem is one isolated case, and everyone thinks they will hydrolock the motor. Typical forum band-wagon.

I love how people just speculate away. You would have to drive through a puddle of water over the nose of the car, or close to that to suck enough water to hydrolock it...and if you drive through water that deep you'll hydrolock the motor with the stock intake...so all the vararam alarmist need to chill out for a sec until the OP comes back.

If he had an off road bumpy hydroplane excursion. could be any number of things,,,starter wires severed, starter messed up, any number of electronic things.
Sure it could by hydrolocked, we dont know for sure though. Plus if it is hydrolocked due to a vararam...its not gonna stop me from buying one..agian if he sucked that much water in or drove through that much sht, it would be locked with the stock intake.

Lets wait to hear back from the OP
and don't forget the Vararam is good for up to a 46hp bump

or so that's what they claim

c'mon dude, get real, look at the thing, the way it's designed. no way will the stock airbox suck water like the vararam water scoop

Last edited by cadguymark; 07-14-2010 at 11:33 PM.
cadguymark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 03:15 PM   #33
AORoads
CF Senior Member
 
AORoads's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2005
Location: Northern, VA
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankTank View Post
I can see where you are coming from, I guess some people get lucky with them and some don't. I had one on my C5 for 3 years and drove through numerous heavy down-pours and never had an issue. I'll agree there is a greater chance with the Vararam, sure that makes sense due to the design. I guess I rarely have seen posts about it, maybe its like you said people are not talking about it due to warranty issues or risks of problems and exposure. 3 hydrolocks on the way to carlisle? I wonder if they indeed where all running Vararams..
just speculating here, but the reason they're not talking about it could be one of two things: embarrassment OR taking it off and claiming that it was a stock intake that ingested water to either their insurance company or chevy dealer.
AORoads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 03:36 PM   #34
tlcj
CF Senior Member
 
tlcj's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2007
Location: Taylor Mill KY
Send a message via AIM to tlcj Send a message via Yahoo to tlcj
Default

What other components need to be checked out if he hydrolocked and did not bend anything up? Remove plugs and get the water out. Check oil. The MAF was already talked about. Would the injectors be an issue as well? We had a large downpoor in NJ one afternoon many years ago. Many cars on my street with stock intakes were hydrolocked. I removed the water, but several neighbors had to take their cars in. Most had injector issues.
tlcj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 03:51 PM   #35
bluman
CF Senior Member
 
bluman's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Location: Long Island NY
Default

IMHO...it's hydro-locked !
bluman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 04:49 PM   #36
starr1
CF Senior Member
 
Member Since: Dec 2007
Default

I see you are in Ky. Not sure how close you are to Cincinnati, but I would strongly suggest you call Danny Popp, at McClusky Chevrolet, in Cincinnat , Ohio. Danny is the best vette specialist in S.W. Ohio. He only works on vettes and will take the time to discuss any problems you may have. I'm not a fan of dealerships, but Danny is exceptional. The number is 513-761-1111. Good luck.
starr1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 04:54 PM   #37
FrankTank
CF Senior Member
CI 7-8-9-11 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'10, '13
 
FrankTank's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2004
Location: Buffalo Grove IL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cadguymark View Post
and don't forget the Vararam is good for up to a 46hp bump

or so that's what they claim

c'mon dude, get real, look at the thing, the way it's designed. no way will the stock airbox suck water like the vararam water scoop
All I was really gettin at was that none of us know how deep of water or mud he drove through since none of us were there. I guess I should have been more clear...there comes a point to which if you drive through deep enough water you can hydrolock any mortor with a stock intake...that's all.

better?
FrankTank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 06:07 PM   #38
Vivid1
CF Senior Member
 
Vivid1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2010
Default

You would have to go through a lot of standing water to hydrolock the engine. Also, if he hydro planed, he would have let off the gas out of instinct. At 0% throttle the engine is at negative vaccum. I dont think that is anywhere near enough to gulp water.

Lets get back to basics: What's it take for an engine to run: Spark, fuel, air. Start with air. Make sure the MAF is securely connected. Also, check any other intake or exhaust sensors that are visable. Then go to fuel, then spark.

Thats just what I would do before spending money on it.
Vivid1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 06:26 PM   #39
JJC5
CF Senior Member
 
JJC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2006
Location: Anaheim Hills, Ca
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by acrebs21 View Post
I was driving to work, and hydroplaned into the grass and down a small hill. I got stuck in the mud in a small ditch. So I got someone to pull me out, and now it wont start. Seemed like the battery was dead, so we got jumper cables. It started to turn over but wouldn't completely start. Only time it would, was when I would pump the gas pedal and it would die after I let off the gas. And there seemed to be a small rattling sound. Then we waited a little while and tried again and it won't even crank now. I've been told there is a fuel pump reset button or a computer reset button u have to hit when the car is shaken like that. Is this true? Any help?
The one sentence that's highlighted here in the original post would sure give me indication that it hydro-locked.
JJC5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 07:49 PM   #40
kevakasper
CF Senior Member
No-IL Events Coordinator
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14
 
kevakasper's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2010
Location: Hawthorn Woods Illinois
Default

Sorry to hear the accident, keep us informed as to what happens, Good Luck!
kevakasper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2010, 07:49 PM
 
Go Back   Corvette Forum > C6 Corvette, 2005 - 2013 > C6 Corvette General Discussion
Reload this Page HELP: Hydroplaned today and now car won't start
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
car, crank, deep, ditch, drive, drove, hydro, hydroplaned, planed, puddle, star, start, taurus, water, wont


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Click for Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fuel Door not closing and latching monstercb2002 C6 Corvette General Discussion 36 10-13-2014 03:41 PM
2006 C6 A6 LS2 Won't Start jersphoto C6 Corvette General Discussion 4 10-09-2014 02:53 PM
A6 Problem, Now No Start - Help Please smaynor C6 Tech/Performance 3 09-22-2014 04:54 PM
RF's in the Rain? sellshort C6 Corvette General Discussion 20 12-13-2012 05:18 PM
2001 Z06 Won't Start (Starter won't engage) mikey C5 Tech 7 02-18-2008 01:54 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:52 PM.


Emails & Password Backup