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Old 10-02-2010, 05:10 AM   #1
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As most C5 & C6 owners know, there is a "BLACK BOX" inside our cars. It records the last few seconds prior to impact. It will record vehicle speed, % of brakes being applied, throttle position, RPM, etc.

In a serious accident, the black box info can be downloaded and then used against you in both criminal and civil charges.

With that being said. Are you FOR or AGAINST having a "black box" in your C6?






"Sheriff said they took the BLACK BOX from the corvette and down loaded the info. for the DA and the Vette was doing 157 MPHwhen he passed the St. Croix Co. cop prior to loosing control and when into a side way skid for 888 feet when he hit the tree. Otherwise the car would have gone thru the house and into the Apple River. Parts of the car were on the roof of the house and the driver is alive and in the hospital .The woman passenger nearly died but is now recovering."

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I don't drive like an idiot, so I don't really care all that much. The illusion of privacy for the private citizen was broken many, many years ago.
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Yep, the days of "cruising" are coming to an end. I really believe it that in my lifetime, I will see an end to recreational driving or it will be taxed to death. The Black Box was the beginning of the ball rolling.

There was an Oregon congressman that wanted to test having a government GPS unit in every car so a tax could be imposed on the miles driven. The proposal was H.R. 3311

He stated:

"Oregon has successfully tested a Vehicle Miles Traveled fee, and it is time to expand and test the VMT program across the country," he said in a statement on his website. "It is time to get creative and find smart ways to rebuild and renew America's deteriorating infrastructure," he said.

His plan calls for the Department of the Treasury to study the idea with test GPS-equipped car projects in every state.
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Yep, the days of "cruising" are coming to an end. I really believe it that in my lifetime, I will see an end to recreational driving or it will be taxed to death. The Black Box was the beginning of the ball rolling.

There was an Oregon congressman that wanted to test having a government GPS unit in every car so a tax could be imposed on the miles driven. The proposal was H.R. 3311

He stated:

"Oregon has successfully tested a Vehicle Miles Traveled fee, and it is time to expand and test the VMT program across the country," he said in a statement on his website. "It is time to get creative and find smart ways to rebuild and renew America's deteriorating infrastructure," he said.

His plan calls for the Department of the Treasury to study the idea with test GPS-equipped car projects in every state.
Sorry, but that one is already in full force. You already pay a tax for each mile driven as part of the tax you pay for fuel. You also get to pay some tax for driving in parking lots, at a track day or just idling in your driveway.
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The 'black box' is part of your air bag system. What'cha got against airbags?
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I chose "against," but would have chosen--doesn't matter to me.

Governments are getting very creative in their quest for tax money. Let's say that; you don't register your car for two or three years because you are fixing it all up good as new. You'll have refile ($) the title. Also, if your new C6 is from a dealer, make sure you are not paying fees for a state park sticker unless YOU desire to do it. Yes, it's worthy, but it's underhanded.
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I voted for, if it puts some moron in jail for killing someone, that's a good thing. Having said that,this poll is for the paranoids and the paranoids will make the "againsts" win in this one.
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I am in the I do not care camp. I really try to enjoy life, and have a good time. All these complaints and theories about our Government sometimes are just over the top. I can find plenty of fault but when you look at other Countries we have it pretty good here in the USA. The Black Box in the Vette is there for a purpose and can be used for more good than bad. Just drive it and enjoy it.
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I too would have opted for "I Don't Care." Not an option, so I didn't vote.
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Given the growing Orwellian society we are living in, I believe any vote that does not oppose "black boxes" reflects a desire to live in slavery.
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I am against the black box, it doesn't tell the total story. Lets say you tried evasive actions to prevent an accident, including full throttle, increase in speed, reduced braking, etc and the accident occurred in spite of evasive actions taken, though the severity was reduced. The black box will record full throttle, speed increase and reduced braking, it will not show that these actions resulted in reduced damage or the saving of a life. Now fight this in court.
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I drive responsibly so it does not bother me one bit.
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I also drive responsibly, but I don't like being 'watched'
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Given the growing Orwellian society we are living in, I believe any vote that does not oppose "black boxes" reflects a desire to live in slavery.
Well said
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I voted for, if it puts some moron in jail for killing someone, that's a good thing. Having said that,this poll is for the paranoids and the paranoids will make the "againsts" win in this one.

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Between Onstar, IPASS ( IL. toll road payment system ) and my cell phone, what's one more thing tracking me going to hurt?
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I too would have opted for "I Don't Care." Not an option, so I didn't vote.
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Black box? Hell, I'm more worried about that Black helicopter that follows me everywhere. Looks like it's a Black guy flying it...WAIT A MINUTE...BARRACK HUSSEIN ADOLF HITLER KIM JONG GENGHAS KHAN OBAMA!!
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As most C5 & C6 owners know, there is a "BLACK BOX" inside our cars. It records the last few seconds prior to impact. It will record vehicle speed, % of brakes being applied, throttle position, RPM, etc.

In a serious accident, the black box info can be downloaded and then used against you in both criminal and civil charges.
You need to face the reality that you gave this one up a while ago when you bought a Corvette with OnStar. You don't account for the fact that the info could also be used in your defense. I'm guessing your assumption is that you would be the guilty party!

If some idiot caused an accident with family or friend of mine, damn right I wouldn't want him to walk because I couldn't use that information.
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