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Can this Tire be Repaired?

Old 04-03-2011, 08:15 PM
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I've had my runflats repaired before, but this is the largest object I have seen in my tire. Do you think this can be repaired?


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Old 04-03-2011, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by S2K
I've had my runflats repaired before, but this the largest object I have seen in my tire. Do you think this can be repaired?

If that's the true size of the hole, then no. You're going to need to replace that tire.


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Old 04-03-2011, 08:17 PM
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I don't know, but you might want to ask wolfdogs (Ken). It does look big. BTW, can't tell but do you have lots of tread left on that tire?
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I'm not an expert but the distance from the side wall might be an issue too.
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I had a much smaller nail in that same spot and Discount Tire said it could not be repaired. To close to the sidewall.
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It is a bit over 1" from the sidewall. The picture is a little deceiving. It is basically middle tread of that last inside tread.
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Pretty hard to tell as the head looks huge...how large is the body of the "nail". What the heck is that thing anyway???
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I have been told if it is in or outside of the groove nearest the sidewall, it can't be repaired. There may be a distance from the sidewall also. Not my expertice, though. Wolfdogs would know.
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Here's what Goodyear says:

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III. REPAIR PROCEDURE FOR SPEED-RATED TIRES

GENERAL
The objective of the puncture repair is to seal the tire against loss of inflation pressure and to prevent damage to the carcass from moisture. In all puncture repairs approved by Goodyear, the hole must be filled with a plug, and a patch covering the hole must be applied according to repair material manufacturer instructions to the inside of the tire. Never repair tires which are worn below 2/32" tread depth.

NOTE: No tire is to be repaired without first being removed from the rim.

REPAIR AREA
Repairing is limited to the tread area only within the outside grooves. No repairs are allowed in the tread area beyond the outside grooves or sidewall.
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If the actual puncture is as big as that head, then it probably will not be fixable.
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Looking at that I wouldn't want it repaired...
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Yeah, it looks like a railroad spike. I've never had anything near that big in my tire before. The only reason I even knew about it was that while changing my oil I was just spinning and looking at the front tires. At first I thought it was perhaps a large wad of chewing gum or something until I took a closer look. It has created the perfect seal as the tire pressure remains unchanged. I wonder how long I have had it.....
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Originally Posted by RicK T
Here's what Goodyear says:

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These are Firehawk tires. I just checked the on-line guide and it shows the area of the tire that can be repaired. As was mentioned for the Goodyear's the area of this issue is not supposed to be repaired. Interestingly I have had a repair on the outer middle tread with no issue and technically, according to the document I mentioned, it should not have been repaired.
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Originally Posted by S2K
These are Firehawk tires. I just checked the on-line guide and it shows the area of the tire that can be repaired. As was mentioned for the Goodyear's the area of this issue is not supposed to be repaired. Interestingly I have had a repair on the outer middle tread with no issue and technically, according to the document I mentioned, it should not have been repaired.
Well, the tire manufacturers' repair guidelines are in place as a way for them to control liability while maintaining the tire's speed rating for the customer. I think, as you said, a tire "can" be successfully repaired outside of the guidelines but.....if there was a failure and you tried to claim something against the manufacturer and they found the out of bounds repair they have something to fall back on to deny liability. JMO
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i'll be keeping a closer eye on MY rf tires. thanks.
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NO.

DON'T DO IT. It's too close to the belt edge and wedge supports.

the wedge support is not shown i this illustration, but you get the idea from where your puncture is:



now look at the wedge support


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Old 04-03-2011, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad*Max
I'm not an expert but the distance from the side wall might be an issue too.
Really close to the side wall so I highly doubt it. My best friend is a store manager for GOOD YEAR and I visit him a lot and see punctured tires all the time and that is not one that will be fixed.
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Thanks guys. I think it's unanimous here which is rare, so you know this one has to be obviously bad! I've had the OEM tires, then these Firehawks, and perhaps now I will look at something like the Hankooks. These tires still had some tread on them so it is disappointing I couldn't finish them out.
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Originally Posted by S2K
Thanks guys. I think it's unanimous here which is rare, so you know this one has to be obviously bad! I've had the OEM tires, then these Firehawks, and perhaps now I will look at something like the Hankooks. These tires still had some tread on them so it is disappointing I couldn't finish them out.
smart move, if you will notice (i failed to mention this) in the last illustration, the extended mobility inserts are right where the penetration is ... thats no good as well.

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