Best track day tires? Best pads?
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Best track day tires? Best pads?
I am looking for a set 18 & 19" tires for my stock rims so I can take my C6 to Putnam before the end of the year with 10/10ths group. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have different rims and tires on the car now so the stock rims will strictly be for track days. Also, which hawk pads are best for the track?
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Hi there , for track pads on street tires: carbotech xp10 in front and Xp8 rear. rotor friendly and still usable on the street if u don't mind a bit of brake dust and some squealing ...
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I am looking for a set 18 & 19" tires for my stock rims so I can take my C6 to Putnam before the end of the year with 10/10ths group. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have different rims and tires on the car now so the stock rims will strictly be for track days. Also, which hawk pads are best for the track?
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I personally believe there're benefits to tracking your car on street tires for a period of time when first starting out (before going on to more track oriented tires). Also, if you think you'll get into the sport you might be better served ditching your stock wheels and looking for some wider 18" rims all-around. The combination 'street/track' tires (Nittos, Michelin Pilot Sport Cup, etc.) will be an improvement over OEM runflats but I think you'll find to be competitive you'll need true, sticky track tires (Hoosier R6, Kumho 710, Michelin slicks, etc.). Just a thought.
I can't remember exactly which Hawk pads I used to use with the OEM brakes but I liked the Performance Friction C5 Z-compound pads best. Good luck whichever you go with. Stay safe and have a blast!
I can't remember exactly which Hawk pads I used to use with the OEM brakes but I liked the Performance Friction C5 Z-compound pads best. Good luck whichever you go with. Stay safe and have a blast!
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From reading up on this extensively, for beginners and intermediate drivers, the NT-05's seem to be popular as a cheaper and lighter choice, while the Hoosiers are a better choice for the faster intermediate and advanced drivers.
Ive only researched GS/Z06 sizes, so their may be more choices in the narrower tires.
Ive only researched GS/Z06 sizes, so their may be more choices in the narrower tires.
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NT05s don't perform quite as good as the GY EMTs. At least in the Z06 sizes. The EMTs are pretty good track tires. However, the NTs will out wear the GYs by a lot. Just finished 26 track days on my NTs. Also had about 500 street miles on them and a couple dozen autocrosses. At about 100 miles per track day they did well. At my last autocross the tires didn't seem to stick well even though there are a couple 32nds of tread left so I suspect they are pretty much heat cycled out and ready for the trash can.
It is hard to say what pad you should use since I don't know your driving level. A novice can easily get by on stock pads although to counteract pad taper issues they should swap the front pads from one side of the car to the other after the first day (inside driver side pad becomes outside passenger side pad, etc). This will minimize the affects of pad taper and keep the brake pedal higher. Hawk HP+ is what I favor from on an overall cost/performance basis although I tend to overheat them. There are other pads such as PFC, Wilwood, Carbotech and Cobalt that work better at high temps but they cost more and have their own issues.
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It is hard to say what pad you should use since I don't know your driving level. A novice can easily get by on stock pads although to counteract pad taper issues they should swap the front pads from one side of the car to the other after the first day (inside driver side pad becomes outside passenger side pad, etc). This will minimize the affects of pad taper and keep the brake pedal higher. Hawk HP+ is what I favor from on an overall cost/performance basis although I tend to overheat them. There are other pads such as PFC, Wilwood, Carbotech and Cobalt that work better at high temps but they cost more and have their own issues.
Bill
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Think you're doing the right thing going with a seperate track set up, as you can really start chunking out expensive stockers when pushing it. I went the same route, and it's Hoosier R6's on the 2nd set. Actually did some light rain grooving work, as drive these to/from the track. My cars a ZO6 and the stock pads are pretty good. Wear through them though, and luckily was able to get a few lightly used sets from other forum members.
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NT05s don't perform quite as good as the GY EMTs. At least in the Z06 sizes. The EMTs are pretty good track tires. However, the NTs will out wear the GYs by a lot. Just finished 26 track days on my NTs. Also had about 500 street miles on them and a couple dozen autocrosses. At about 100 miles per track day they did well. At my last autocross the tires didn't seem to stick well even though there are a couple 32nds of tread left so I suspect they are pretty much heat cycled out and ready for the trash can.
It is hard to say what pad you should use since I don't know your driving level. A novice can easily get by on stock pads although to counteract pad taper issues they should swap the front pads from one side of the car to the other after the first day (inside driver side pad becomes outside passenger side pad, etc). This will minimize the affects of pad taper and keep the brake pedal higher. Hawk HP+ is what I favor from on an overall cost/performance basis although I tend to overheat them. There are other pads such as PFC, Wilwood, Carbotech and Cobalt that work better at high temps but they cost more and have their own issues.
Bill
It is hard to say what pad you should use since I don't know your driving level. A novice can easily get by on stock pads although to counteract pad taper issues they should swap the front pads from one side of the car to the other after the first day (inside driver side pad becomes outside passenger side pad, etc). This will minimize the affects of pad taper and keep the brake pedal higher. Hawk HP+ is what I favor from on an overall cost/performance basis although I tend to overheat them. There are other pads such as PFC, Wilwood, Carbotech and Cobalt that work better at high temps but they cost more and have their own issues.
Bill
One thing the OP needs to consider that is causing me some concern is alignment with track and street tires. From what I've read, the A6/R6 will both wear prematurely if you're not running -1.5 to -2.0 deg camber. Those settings in turn will cause street tires to wear prematurely.
If the NT-05's would live a decent life at a compromised aggressive street alignment, they'd be an attractive option.
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I'd run Toyo R888's as these are a DOT "drive to the track and back" tire and I've been using Carbotech's. The good about Carbotechs-you will stop. The bad-You will wear out rotors. I'm going to try some Hawks my next track day and see how those go.
BTW- I've ran XP8/10 and also the RP2's.
BTW- I've ran XP8/10 and also the RP2's.
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I'd run Toyo R888's as these are a DOT "drive to the track and back" tire and I've been using Carbotech's. The good about Carbotechs-you will stop. The bad-You will wear out rotors. I'm going to try some Hawks my next track day and see how those go.
BTW- I've ran XP8/10 and also the RP2's.
BTW- I've ran XP8/10 and also the RP2's.
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The Hawk HPS pads are pretty similar to the stock pads, so they can be overheated at the track. I also have tried Hawk HP+ pads. They are more heat resistant, but the dust they leave is really hard to remove, especially if it gets wet. I really didn't like them. I've been running PFC01 pads for the last several years and I really like them. Bondurant was running them when I attended and I was impressed with them there. Haven't tried the Carbotech pads.
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