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Old 12-26-2011, 01:39 PM
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Just pointing out facts here so everyone is informed.

We see 6000k advertised as brighter and whiter than stock. This is simply not true.

Don't get me wrong I think 6000k is a great temp. It's one of my favorites because it's still plenty bright and looks good. It's just not brighter than stock which is approx 4300k. A lot of CF members "upgrade" to our 6000k lows and fogs based on the look.

Always remember the higher you go in k the less light you put out.

3000k puts off a yellow color which should only be used for fogs.

Check out the images for further info on temps in regards to light output. All were found using a Google search so there is no biased info added on our end. I suspect the one that says 10000k is the most requested sells to a lot of imports. We def. don't many see requests for 10000k.

Feel free to join in the discussion with your experience with different temps
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100%. I moved the color of my high beams up to match the color of the low beams because the change in color was distracting to me. Then I did the fogs also. There is a misunderstanding of color temperature vs light output. Higher temp does not mean more light, it just means a different color. In the old days, a 100 watt halogen bulb vs a 55 watt bulb really meant more light. This is not the case with these bulbs with different color temps. The whitest light produces the most actual light output. By all means, put in the bulbs that you like best, for whatever reason...just understand the characteristics.
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100%. I moved the color of my high beams up to match the color of the low beams because the change in color was distracting to me. Then I did the fogs also. There is a misunderstanding of color temperature vs light output. Higher temp does not mean more light, it just means a different color. In the old days, a 100 watt halogen bulb vs a 55 watt bulb really meant more light. This is not the case with these bulbs with different color temps. The whitest light produces the most actual light output. By all means, put in the bulbs that you like best, for whatever reason...just understand the characteristics.
You bring up a good point I didn't even cover.

Now most kits you guys see out there for sale are 35 watt kits. Even the HIDs we sell are 35 watt kits.

They do make higher wattage kits. The only ones I've ever experimented with are the 55 watt kits. I hear they have 75 and 100. Never tried them.

The 55 watt kits are 30-40% brighter than the 35 watt kits which are already super bright!

I mainly offer these (55 watt kits) to C5 owners with custom projector set ups. I feel they're better behind a projector optic instead of the reflector optics due to light scatter. The C6 took a step back from the C5 with the fog lights. The C5 uses projectors which are pretty good for OEM.
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The 3000K picture is the only one showing the second pole on the left side.
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The 3000K picture is the only one showing the second pole on the left side.
Yeah not sure why. That one is good as it shows the percentages.
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I'm using the 6000k in my C5 for both low beam and fogs and they look fantasic. Great light output and a nice white colour with a very small hint of blue. Getting a C6 this winter and will do the same for sure. Not one problem with my JWM kits thus far. Had them for two years. Great product from a great vendor.
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Originally Posted by cclive
100%. I moved the color of my high beams up to match the color of the low beams because the change in color was distracting...
what bulbs did you get? i've tried to find high beams that match but have been unable. don't want to get hid high beams as i only use the highs occasionally and only for a short time. hids have a warm-up time that makes them useless for short duration use.

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Originally Posted by Rob01C5
I'm using the 6000k in my C5 for both low beam and fogs and they look fantasic. Great light output and a nice white colour with a very small hint of blue. Getting a C6 this winter and will do the same for sure. Not one problem with my JWM kits thus far. Had them for two years. Great product from a great vendor.
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4300k lows, 3000k fogs, and halogens in the high beams are the only way I will ever go.

I don't like putting HIDs in the high beams because if you use the flash to pass, you don't let the ballasts warm up. My daily driver is a 2010 RX350 with bi-xenons, and I try to avoid using the flash-to-pass because of the strain on the system, even though its designed to. I've always heard that all HIDs, aftermarket especially, do not like to be quick-cycled like that.
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I agree that's why I stopped pushing the hid highs. If someone asks and requests I let them know and go from there. Some use them longer periods of driving in the country so they're nice to have.
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personally i stick with 4300 because anything that looks blue will get you pulled over and questioned, not to mention the fact my light are for seeing with not being seen and certainly not to be confused with the ricer crew.
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Nothing wrong with that. 6000k still looks oemish IMO.

You can always see the guys coming with the deep blue lights. I see purple a lot too.
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Originally Posted by irvbulldogs72
4300k lows, 3000k fogs, and halogens in the high beams are the only way I will ever go.

I don't like putting HIDs in the high beams because if you use the flash to pass, you don't let the ballasts warm up. My daily driver is a 2010 RX350 with bi-xenons, and I try to avoid using the flash-to-pass because of the strain on the system, even though its designed to. I've always heard that all HIDs, aftermarket especially, do not like to be quick-cycled like that.
If you don't mind my asking, what did you put for halogens in your high beams? I am also concerned with how the HID's would react to the short bursts when they are used only for a short time so want to go with the Halogens to start with..

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Originally Posted by irvbulldogs72
4300k lows, 3000k fogs, and halogens in the high beams are the only way I will ever go.

I don't like putting HIDs in the high beams because if you use the flash to pass, you don't let the ballasts warm up. My daily driver is a 2010 RX350 with bi-xenons, and I try to avoid using the flash-to-pass because of the strain on the system, even though its designed to. I've always heard that all HIDs, aftermarket especially, do not like to be quick-cycled like that.
Those ambers are best for fog.
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6k are the purest white look IMO I did all in that and they match the switchbacks pretty close. Did HID, FOGs and changed the stock HID to 6k as well. Looks AMAZING! Just ask anyone in Sweetrides in Austin, TX or LCC
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I know that when constructing a coral reef aquarium, I only use 10, 000k metal halide lamps. That is my input.
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Originally Posted by JW@JWMotoring.com
You bring up a good point I didn't even cover.

Now most kits you guys see out there for sale are 35 watt kits. Even the HIDs we sell are 35 watt kits.

They do make higher wattage kits. The only ones I've ever experimented with are the 55 watt kits. I hear they have 75 and 100. Never tried them.

The 55 watt kits are 30-40% brighter than the 35 watt kits which are already super bright!

I mainly offer these (55 watt kits) to C5 owners with custom projector set ups. I feel they're better behind a projector optic instead of the reflector optics due to light scatter. The C6 took a step back from the C5 with the fog lights. The C5 uses projectors which are pretty good for OEM.
JW,

So are you saying the HID kits work well in a projector headlight system v.s. a reflector system? My biggest complaint is people trying to upgrade their reflector system meant for halogens using HID. The reflectors just throw light all over the place, including into the eyes of oncoming traffic. Daniel Stern lighting has or had a good article concerning this.

I have an '06 Yukon Denali I have been contemplating upgrading to HID as it uses projectors but a 9003 type bulb. Do these kits offer the same bulb socket?

Thanks,

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