Best recommended Alignment specs?
#1
Melting Slicks
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Best recommended Alignment specs?
Street Use Only:
I'm putting new Michelin Pilots on and want to check alignment specs.
I have the Pfadt Chart and have read a number of posts on this question, but what is the consensus?
Front: Camber: 0 to -0.8 or anywhere in between
Toe: 0
Rear: Camber: -0.5
Toe: 0
Thanks,
WR
I'm putting new Michelin Pilots on and want to check alignment specs.
I have the Pfadt Chart and have read a number of posts on this question, but what is the consensus?
Front: Camber: 0 to -0.8 or anywhere in between
Toe: 0
Rear: Camber: -0.5
Toe: 0
Thanks,
WR
#2
Those settings would be for someone who just wants good tire wear. If you want better performance youre going to need to add more negative camber.
rear toe is fine, but you can set it a bit more negative as well
common street setup is:
front
-1.2 deg camber
0 toe
rear
-0.9 deg camber
-1/6" toe
good high speed stability, not too aggressive, but handles well
rear toe is fine, but you can set it a bit more negative as well
common street setup is:
front
-1.2 deg camber
0 toe
rear
-0.9 deg camber
-1/6" toe
good high speed stability, not too aggressive, but handles well
#3
Le Mans Master
Street Use Only:
I'm putting new Michelin Pilots on and want to check alignment specs.
I have the Pfadt Chart and have read a number of posts on this question, but what is the consensus?
Front: Camber: 0 to -0.8 or anywhere in between
Toe: 0
Rear: Camber: -0.5
Toe: 0
Thanks,
WR
I'm putting new Michelin Pilots on and want to check alignment specs.
I have the Pfadt Chart and have read a number of posts on this question, but what is the consensus?
Front: Camber: 0 to -0.8 or anywhere in between
Toe: 0
Rear: Camber: -0.5
Toe: 0
Thanks,
WR
z51vett
#4
Race Director
I use Pfadt's street numbers and am very happy. Seeing good even tire wear too. I went from 0 camber and toe, which was squirrely, the car wandered. The street alinement has worked well for me.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
#5
Le Mans Master
I use Pfadt's street numbers and am very happy. Seeing good even tire wear too. I went from 0 camber and toe, which was squirrely, the car wandered. The street alinement has worked well for me.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
z51vett
z51vett
#6
Race Director
I tried this on my 09 z06 at 12000 miles when I replaced the tires at 25000 miles or about 13000 miles later I had the same results inside of tires were gone. So use this if you want to but not me. I don't have the wandering you are talking about in my 2012 and the 0 toe and camber is what its set at had it done at 500 miles.Oh if your tires are already worn in or set this may cause wandering with this alignment.
z51vett
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z51vett
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I do have the Z51 sways and Koni FSD shocks too.
Yours being a Z06 I wonder if that means anything?
#7
Hey guys! Couple things to keep in mind when it comes to alignment...
1. Your alignment is only as good as the tech performing the work. You own performance cars, take your car to performance shops for the best results.
2. It's not camber that generally kills tires, it's Toe. We would expect our Performance Street alignment spec to offer better performance than a 0 camber 0 toe setup with minimal additional impact to tire wear.
Here is a copy of our alignment guide, click the photo for a full printable version. Please feel free to use it as you see fit!
1. Your alignment is only as good as the tech performing the work. You own performance cars, take your car to performance shops for the best results.
2. It's not camber that generally kills tires, it's Toe. We would expect our Performance Street alignment spec to offer better performance than a 0 camber 0 toe setup with minimal additional impact to tire wear.
Here is a copy of our alignment guide, click the photo for a full printable version. Please feel free to use it as you see fit!
#8
Team Owner
On my Z06. I reduced the front camber from -1.2 to-.9 and near zero toe and the rear camber from -1.1 to -.6 and near zero toe. Can't tell any difference in handling.
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If you want good tire mileage with no inner tire wear
Front
Camber ..... - 0.4°
Toe ............. 0.0°
Caster ......... Stock Spec
Rear
Camber ..... - 0.4°
Toe ............. 0.0°
Front
Camber ..... - 0.4°
Toe ............. 0.0°
Caster ......... Stock Spec
Rear
Camber ..... - 0.4°
Toe ............. 0.0°
#11
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Hey guys! Couple things to keep in mind when it comes to alignment...
1. Your alignment is only as good as the tech performing the work. You own performance cars, take your car to performance shops for the best results.
2. It's not camber that generally kills tires, it's Toe. We would expect our Performance Street alignment spec to offer better performance than a 0 camber 0 toe setup with minimal additional impact to tire wear.
Here is a copy of our alignment guide, click the photo for a full printable version. Please feel free to use it as you see fit!
1. Your alignment is only as good as the tech performing the work. You own performance cars, take your car to performance shops for the best results.
2. It's not camber that generally kills tires, it's Toe. We would expect our Performance Street alignment spec to offer better performance than a 0 camber 0 toe setup with minimal additional impact to tire wear.
Here is a copy of our alignment guide, click the photo for a full printable version. Please feel free to use it as you see fit!
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I use Pfadt's street numbers and am very happy. Seeing good even tire wear too. I went from 0 camber and toe, which was squirrely, the car wandered. The street alinement has worked well for me.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
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I use Pfadt's street numbers and am very happy. Seeing good even tire wear too. I went from 0 camber and toe, which was squirrely, the car wandered. The street alinement has worked well for me.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
The more camber above the recommended street specs will just bring on increased wear with a boost in performance too. I personally do not think it is needed for the street though at the high cost of tire replacement.
If you got the $$ though get aggressive if that what you need.
#14
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I just today had my '10 ZR1 aligned (targeted) to the Pfadt street performance specs. Used Southwest Alignment on Richmond Ave. in Houston. The owner, Greg Turman, did the work himself. His shop has the Hunter Hawkeye System. Excellent job...the "before" measurements were definitely out, especially the toe.
The car has been in service about 14 mo's, and I recently noticed the outboard tread section on the front tires appeared to be wearing a bit more than the rest of the front ties. I realize that I did let this go too long before having the alignment checked.
before
camber LF -1.4 RF -1.1
caster LF 8.3 RF 7.9
toe LF .29 RF .21
camber LR -1.5 RR -1.0
toe LR 0.04 RR -.09
after
camber LF -.7 RF -.8
caster LF 7.5 RF 7.7
toe LF -.01 RF .03
camber LR -.6 RR -.6
toe LR 0.02 RR -.01
The car has been in service about 14 mo's, and I recently noticed the outboard tread section on the front tires appeared to be wearing a bit more than the rest of the front ties. I realize that I did let this go too long before having the alignment checked.
before
camber LF -1.4 RF -1.1
caster LF 8.3 RF 7.9
toe LF .29 RF .21
camber LR -1.5 RR -1.0
toe LR 0.04 RR -.09
after
camber LF -.7 RF -.8
caster LF 7.5 RF 7.7
toe LF -.01 RF .03
camber LR -.6 RR -.6
toe LR 0.02 RR -.01
Last edited by Gary '09 C6; 03-30-2012 at 11:37 PM. Reason: add'l. info
#15
#16
What exactly does caster do to tire wear and handling? And what are the factory alignment specs, including caster? Thx.
The 'performance street' numbers still have a lot of variance. I was thinking of going the least aggressive of them:
FRONT: Camber= -.07, Caster= -7.5, Toe=0
REAR: Camber= -.04, Toe=0
Does that sound good? And final question: How precisely can an alignment tech get to those numbers??? Thanks gang.
The 'performance street' numbers still have a lot of variance. I was thinking of going the least aggressive of them:
FRONT: Camber= -.07, Caster= -7.5, Toe=0
REAR: Camber= -.04, Toe=0
Does that sound good? And final question: How precisely can an alignment tech get to those numbers??? Thanks gang.