Z06 Suspension On Base Model?
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Z06 Suspension On Base Model?
I used to have a 2006 Z51, and prefer the look of a base model over the wide body. I love my new 2012, but do miss the stiffer suspension of my previous Corvette. I noticed some parts vendors are selling Z06 suspension parts for less than what I thought it would be, but I have a few questions first.
Would Z06 shocks, springs, and stabilizer bars fit on a base model (narrow body)?
I've read in magazines that they feel the Grand Sport and Z51 suspensions were less frightening at the limit compared to the Z06 which they often describe as unpredictable and require skilled drivers. Is this due to the added power of the LS7, or would I experience these characteristics if I ran a LS3 with the Z06 suspension package?
Would I void my warranty if I did this upgrade?
Does anyone know a good installer in New Jersey?
Would Z06 shocks, springs, and stabilizer bars fit on a base model (narrow body)?
I've read in magazines that they feel the Grand Sport and Z51 suspensions were less frightening at the limit compared to the Z06 which they often describe as unpredictable and require skilled drivers. Is this due to the added power of the LS7, or would I experience these characteristics if I ran a LS3 with the Z06 suspension package?
Would I void my warranty if I did this upgrade?
Does anyone know a good installer in New Jersey?
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I used to have a 2006 Z51, and prefer the look of a base model over the wide body. I love my new 2012, but do miss the stiffer suspension of my previous Corvette. I noticed some parts vendors are selling Z06 suspension parts for less than what I thought it would be, but I have a few questions first.
Would Z06 shocks, springs, and stabilizer bars fit on a base model (narrow body)?
I've read in magazines that they feel the Grand Sport and Z51 suspensions were less frightening at the limit compared to the Z06 which they often describe as unpredictable and require skilled drivers. Is this due to the added power of the LS7, or would I experience these characteristics if I ran a LS3 with the Z06 suspension package?
Would I void my warranty if I did this upgrade?
Does anyone know a good installer in New Jersey?
Would Z06 shocks, springs, and stabilizer bars fit on a base model (narrow body)?
I've read in magazines that they feel the Grand Sport and Z51 suspensions were less frightening at the limit compared to the Z06 which they often describe as unpredictable and require skilled drivers. Is this due to the added power of the LS7, or would I experience these characteristics if I ran a LS3 with the Z06 suspension package?
Would I void my warranty if I did this upgrade?
Does anyone know a good installer in New Jersey?
As far as installation in New Jersey is concerned, you should definitely give East Coast Supercharging a call. They are in Cream Ridge and have experience installing everything in our entire product catalog, as well as just about anything in the Corvette aftermarket. You can reach them at 609 752 0321. Definitely a great shop if you're anywhere in the area.
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The Z06 suspension is set up to work with the wider tires that come on that car. I suspect that simply installing all the Z06 pieces on a base car would produce less than optimal handling, probably some oversteer.
There's gotta be someone who has tried it...
There's gotta be someone who has tried it...
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I am about to install a rear Z06 rear swaybar (fronts are the same) on my Z51,as well as a set of Phadt featherlight coilovers. Would this combo work well together? Not to hijack this thread....but may give the OP more options...?
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Most people say Z51 is the stiffest you should go on the base/Z51 rear tires.
You can get some snap oversteer and erratic handling unless you match your tires to the bars, springs and shocks. They were all designed to go together.
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I love all the misinformation that passes as expert advice on this forum.
To the OP, check with Pfadt or LG for suggestions or parts.
To the OP, check with Pfadt or LG for suggestions or parts.
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I am currently running 305/30/19's on back now...will be going wide body within the next year though. The mid setting on the Joc pkg is about equal in stiffness as the Z06 rear bars,with the fronts being even stiffer and that set up is designed for the coupe.
Read up on this.....if you aren't running the 325's in the rear, be careful.
Most people say Z51 is the stiffest you should go on the base/Z51 rear tires.
You can get some snap oversteer and erratic handling unless you match your tires to the bars, springs and shocks. They were all designed to go together.
Most people say Z51 is the stiffest you should go on the base/Z51 rear tires.
You can get some snap oversteer and erratic handling unless you match your tires to the bars, springs and shocks. They were all designed to go together.
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Do you have an FE1 car? If you're talking shocks, springs, and sways, I'd advise you go aftermarket instead.
A lot of the twitchyness in the Z06 was due to the amount of power going through the original Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMTs. This actually led Goodyear to develop the F1 Supercar G2s which are, IIRC, most more progressive at the limit.
A lot of the twitchyness in the Z06 was due to the amount of power going through the original Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar EMTs. This actually led Goodyear to develop the F1 Supercar G2s which are, IIRC, most more progressive at the limit.
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I put the Pfadt JO stage 1 on my base 10 Coupe and absolutely loved it.
I thought it made the car handle much better than stock. However, I didn't have the Z package so can't compare to that though.
I plan on putting the exact same JO package on my 13 GS when I take delivery next week.
I thought it made the car handle much better than stock. However, I didn't have the Z package so can't compare to that though.
I plan on putting the exact same JO package on my 13 GS when I take delivery next week.
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On my base 06, non-z51 I had zo6 front spring, stock rear spring, zo6 sways both ends, bilstein hd shocks and Michelin PS2ZP's, added z 51 rotors and brackets. It all worked AWESOME! Car handled great!
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I run Z06 size tires on our base coupe with Z06 sways and Koni FSD shocks and this is a very good combo for me, shocks are very good for daily driving and pretty good under load and the sways work with my tire setup
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I run the Z06 sways front and rear with Pfadt adj sport shocks. Works well for me. No roll and a nice centered feel to the car. Have had no problem with oversteer, but I do not run my car flat out. Works very well for a DD, but IDK how well for a track car.
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I believe, the Z06 shocks, springs, and stab bars will fit on the base C6 but those might not be the components I'd choose. Wheel and tire sizes are also a huge part of the equation. IMO suspension modifications will definitely 'void' the warranty with respect to the suspension and anything else the dealership can 'reasonably' connect to the suspension. I concur with glenB, I suggest you speak with both Pfadt Racing and LG Motorsports before deciding which way to go.
I agree there is often 'bad' information posted on the forum but that's to be expected on a forum. I also agree to get the best advice, parts or whatever you can...go with the best. That said, it's important to remember that vendors are trying to sell their products so take even expert advice with a grain of salt. This is no reflection on Pfadt Racing. Make no mistake, I have the highest respect for both Pfadt Racing and LG Motorsports. In fact, I have both Pfadt and LG Motorsports parts on my car and I just made a 2,000 mile round-trip to (primarily) have LG Motorsports adjust the setup on my car.
In all fairness, at times even the most qualified engineer's can disagree. People's experiences and the results they get can sometimes differ from expert opinion. I've gone against convention and expert opinion before and it worked-out extremely well. The man I consider my racing mentor is a former sprint car driver, a talented, experienced Corvette racer whose forgotten more about cars than I'll ever know. I often rely on him for advice and occasionally his advice (or the way he does something) differs from what the book or what the "experts" say to do. Many would interpret it as bad advice but without exception his common sense approach to things has always worked well for me. There can be posts and advice on the forum that are blatantly wrong; there can be posts and advice given that I'm highly skeptical of; and, sometimes even seemingly bad advice might be good advice. I take it all in, I get the best independent advice I can and then I decide what's right for me.
In all fairness, at times even the most qualified engineer's can disagree. People's experiences and the results they get can sometimes differ from expert opinion. I've gone against convention and expert opinion before and it worked-out extremely well. The man I consider my racing mentor is a former sprint car driver, a talented, experienced Corvette racer whose forgotten more about cars than I'll ever know. I often rely on him for advice and occasionally his advice (or the way he does something) differs from what the book or what the "experts" say to do. Many would interpret it as bad advice but without exception his common sense approach to things has always worked well for me. There can be posts and advice on the forum that are blatantly wrong; there can be posts and advice given that I'm highly skeptical of; and, sometimes even seemingly bad advice might be good advice. I take it all in, I get the best independent advice I can and then I decide what's right for me.
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Whatever I decide to go with will be one of the GM setups. I know aftermarket products can get improved handling out of the car, but this car was designed from the ground up with leafs in mind. They were meant to make the car more rigid as they act as anti sway bars and are also lighter than coils. Callaways web site even mentions that coil springs that replace the leafs may lead to suspension mount issues in the long term. I am currently leaning to a Z51 setup since I have experience with that and liked it very much. I was thinking I could get a little more responsiveness in corners by going Z06 but I don't want to risk snap oversteer and issues while cornering over uneven pavement. So I will most likely get a Z51 package if I can fine a good parts company. I have an email out to GM parts house now to see if they can help.
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Whatever I decide to go with will be one of the GM setups. I know aftermarket products can get improved handling out of the car, but this car was designed from the ground up with leafs in mind. They were meant to make the car more rigid as they act as anti sway bars and are also lighter than coils. Callaways web site even mentions that coil springs that replace the leafs may lead to suspension mount issues in the long term. I am currently leaning to a Z51 setup since I have experience with that and liked it very much. I was thinking I could get a little more responsiveness in corners by going Z06 but I don't want to risk snap oversteer and issues while cornering over uneven pavement. So I will most likely get a Z51 package if I can fine a good parts company. I have an email out to GM parts house now to see if they can help.