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Old 11-21-2012, 10:29 AM
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Or glaze and then a sealant/wax? I have seen the experts rec. either or!
Old 11-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JMills
Or glaze and then a sealant/wax? I have seen the experts rec. either or!
if you are applying sealant, it cannot be placed over anything other than bare paint, meaning no wax or polish. So the correct order would be clay, or using an product such as adams all purpose cleaner in your soap to strip off the existing wax. Then sealant, glaze and wax. Really depends on where you are in your detailing process to give the right advise.....but hope that helps.........
Old 11-21-2012, 10:45 AM
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I use swirl remover, polish, sealer and then wax, works great for me.
Old 11-21-2012, 10:54 AM
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Any glaze is temporary and used for added depth/gloss or covering imperfections. Because it offers no protection and durability it should be applied before a wax but it could interfere with polymer sealants bonding properly.

A good glaze will REALLY bring your car to another level but will quickly be removed.

Keep in mind that some companies use terms ambiguously. A glaze at one company might be a true glaze while a glaze elsewhere might actually contain sealing properties to it and a glaze at a third company might actually have have polishing properties (Meguiar's Speed Glaze) and a "polish" at yet another company might actually be a glaze or a sealant, lol. You really need to know what the product is. The same thing goes for "wax". Some "wax's" are actually synthetic sealants.

For example, one of my favorite products is EZ Creme Glaze from Chemical guys which actually is an acrylic sealant.

A couple TRUE ones are Meguiar's Show Car Glaze or Poorboys Black Hole
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I believe glazes are old technology. You don't need a glaze to get the look you are seeking with today's better products. Shoot our friends at AutoGeek a message and they'll help you out.
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Too much work for what you get! I use Rejex & it's great!
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Guy I work with saw my VY coupe yesterday and was certain that I had just polished or waxed it because it was so shinny! Told him no, it had not been detailed for like 4 months! I only use Rejex and an occasional detail spray.
Car is never waxed or glazed, nothing but clay bar and Rejex.
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Wash, then (Clay Bar if needed), then (Polish/Glaze if needed or desired), then Wax. In this order.
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Originally Posted by orca1946
Too much work for what you get! I use Rejex & it's great!
Do you wax or polish over the Rejex?
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I use glaze prior to wax and after the polish. Because mine is not a daily driver and is garaged kept, I don't use a sealant. As far as one product over another, I would say that the main products out there are Adams, Zaino, Rejex and a few others.
I use Adams exclusively and have for over 7 years. It is an easy on and easy off. It was just recently named the official car care products for Corvette and Camaro and it now cares the GM logo.
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Wax is last.
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Many years ago I was told by a detail professional that waxing is a no-no and totally NOT necessary unless your car sits out a lot! Polish is the best thing to do. Mine rarely sits out for more than a few hours at a time but is a DD. There is no need to wax over top of Rejex and the shine on my VY lends proof to that.
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Normally a glaze is what you would put on last to give it that extra POP. A glaze normally has a short life so it is something you would use right before a car show etc.

That said, last year I used Poor Boy's sealant and glaze. They specifically say to use their glaze before their sealant, i.e. they are made to work together that way.
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Originally Posted by Cybernetic Medic
Normally a glaze is what you would put on last to give it that extra POP. A glaze normally has a short life so it is something you would use right before a car show etc.

That said, last year I used Poor Boy's sealant and glaze. They specifically say to use their glaze before their sealant, i.e. they are made to work together that way.
I agree that in many products the glaze is used to add pop after the wax. I happen to use Adams products and his glaze works best when applied prior to the wax. It cam be used in between waxing to give it that extra pop.
I believe you will find different products have different procedures for their use.
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Originally Posted by BWF07
I agree that in many products the glaze is used to add pop after the wax. I happen to use Adams products and his glaze works best when applied prior to the wax. It cam be used in between waxing to give it that extra pop.
I believe you will find different products have different procedures for their use.
Bottom line is read the fine instructions for the specific product(s) you plan to use.
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Originally Posted by peter pan
I use swirl remover, polish, sealer and then wax, works great for me.
same here, Auto geek recomends this way. With or with the wax at the end
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Originally Posted by FloydSummerOf68
Any glaze is temporary and used for added depth/gloss or covering imperfections. Because it offers no protection and durability it should be applied before a wax but it could interfere with polymer sealants bonding properly.

A good glaze will REALLY bring your car to another level but will quickly be removed.

Keep in mind that some companies use terms ambiguously. A glaze at one company might be a true glaze while a glaze elsewhere might actually contain sealing properties to it and a glaze at a third company might actually have have polishing properties (Meguiar's Speed Glaze) and a "polish" at yet another company might actually be a glaze or a sealant, lol. You really need to know what the product is. The same thing goes for "wax". Some "wax's" are actually synthetic sealants.

For example, one of my favorite products is EZ Creme Glaze from Chemical guys which actually is an acrylic sealant.

A couple TRUE ones are Meguiar's Show Car Glaze or Poorboys Black Hole


And it should indeed be noted that some glazes are now sealant compatible. Often times unnecessary due to the gloss of sealants like Blackfire and Wolfgang, but none the less some are compatible.

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Originally Posted by JMills
Or glaze and then a sealant/wax? I have seen the experts rec. either or!
Meguiars has a form that answers all types of questions. If the "glaze" is polish (water based), it goes on last.

Waxes (except synthetics, such as NXT Next Generation) are petroleum based. Most polishes are water based.

Wax stays on after a car wash. Polish is usually removed by a car wash.

I think "glaze" is just another term for "polish".
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My experience is glaze after wax.

The wax protects and the glaze seems to add some extra shine yet wears off quickly or with the first wash.

Clay, polish, wax, glaze, finish enhancer is my vote.
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Originally Posted by Silverblue
Do you wax or polish over the Rejex?
Most of us would not. Rejex, which is a sealer, is plenty shiny all by itself. It is a much better protectant than wax and lasts a heck of a lot longer. Waxing over it destroys the "slickness" that keeps down dust and insects and so forth and makes them so easy to clean off. I would put down two coats of Rejex instead of Rejex followed by wax. But most of us Rejex advocates simply do a Rejex coat twice a year.


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