Goodyear F1 Supercar G2 Tire - Not for Cold Weather Use
#21
its funny you see knuckleheads all winter long driving around on low profile performance tires...I usually give them extra spacing....
#22
Race Director
Heck Mad Max and I can tell you how crappy a set of A/S tires can be. My daughter's Sonic's OEM Hankook all season tires were crappy in the cold/snow/ice especially for a FWD car. Replaced them with Michelin Defenders and she said she felt like she gained 10 years of experience driving.
But you would think someone dropping $50k or more on a car would do so some research for their needs.
But you would think someone dropping $50k or more on a car would do so some research for their needs.
#23
True, but the notice in the OP doesn't say not to drive the car, it says "If the ambient temperature in your location is at or below -7°C (20°F), DO NOT MOVE THIS VEHICLE." So, not only can you not drive it, but if it's parked outside and the temp drops below 20* you can't even move it or put it in the garage or the tires will crack? That's beyond stupid for a tire that comes on a car from the factory.
The wife's Shelby has these tires and they truly suck. They're getting replaced by Michelins ASAP.
The wife's Shelby has these tires and they truly suck. They're getting replaced by Michelins ASAP.
#24
Drifting
Tires should not be damaged by being driven in those types of temps, period. I sense a recall in the works.
#25
Team Owner
True, but the notice in the OP doesn't say not to drive the car, it says "If the ambient temperature in your location is at or below -7°C (20°F), DO NOT MOVE THIS VEHICLE." So, not only can you not drive it, but if it's parked outside and the temp drops below 20* you can't even move it or put it in the garage or the tires will crack? That's beyond stupid for a tire that comes on a car from the factory.
The wife's Shelby has these tires and they truly suck. They're getting replaced by Michelins ASAP.
The wife's Shelby has these tires and they truly suck. They're getting replaced by Michelins ASAP.
Did you know that Spring Mountain operates year round? When I was there in early December, the track and air temps were in the 20's at the beginning of the day, and we were lapping before the temps got above freezing. This was not even the coldest time of year for them, yet the Michelin tires they use have no such problems, and no problems with grip either.
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#27
Drifting
yes I do...and I also know from my own experience on the street in Florida when the temp drops you better be damn careful with quick manuvers or you will find yourself facing the opposite direction especially if the tires are still cold....I imagine you did a few laps before you were out running at speed. That being said I also venture to guess that those cars receive new rubber pretty frequently...
And the tires probably last a week or two. So, you think the problem is that the Goodyear rubber gets hard as it ages? I hadn't thought of that and that might very well be. But the scary thing is that these tires are fairly new so I don't think there's any G2 tire that's more than a couple of years old.
#28
"Summer" means different things to different folks in various parts of the country. I'd usually consider road conditions the primary issue in that no snow... don't need all season tires! However the F1s on my C5 were loosing their grip when the temps got onto the 50s. After getting a bit sideways a couple of times, they got my attention. A GOOD LESSON LEARNED here though. Aside from tire damage, the traction in the dry at moderate temps should be highlighted by the tire manufacturers for us "amateurs" to consider.
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#29
Safety Car
So, you think the problem is that the Goodyear rubber gets hard as it ages? I hadn't thought of that and that might very well be. But the scary thing is that these tires are fairly new so I don't think there's any G2 tire that's more than a couple of years old.
The Bridgestones continue to grip very well cold (from the mid 20's cold traction on WV trips), to the low 100's here in parts of Florida. Meaning, very consistant traction cold, hot, wet, dry, etc. Cnsistancy is very important to me, so that you can predict how the car will handle, especially with a daily driver like mine.
A year and a half later, I now have over 20k plus miles on the Bridgestones, and the temp in my part of Florida was in the mid 50's this morning. I could barely get a chirp shifting hard to 2nd this morning, so they continue to grip well in the cooler temps, with many miles on them too.
#30
Race Director
My Super Sports are great down to 5 degrees or so (low as I had them) as long as it is dry. I even did a max power accel onto the interstate and had no issues.
But if someone looks at the G2's tread, or even the Michelin Cup tires tread one should be able to figure out that they are not made for cold weather driving. Run flats tend to be jumpy in the cold anyway, and that is the A/S ZP tires I had on my 08 before.
But if someone looks at the G2's tread, or even the Michelin Cup tires tread one should be able to figure out that they are not made for cold weather driving. Run flats tend to be jumpy in the cold anyway, and that is the A/S ZP tires I had on my 08 before.
#32
Instructor
Okey, but for the other 95% that buy cars off the showroom floors totally ignorant of such things, it seems GM has screwed up big time by not posting warning lables on their G/S, Z06, 427 Convertibles, or ZR1 models that clearly states "this car, because of it's summer performance tires is unsafe to drive at temperatures below 50 degrees F. and in substantial rain."
I want tires on my G/S that are agressive when hot that's why I bought it. If you want to look cool and drive the car for mundane transportation.....buy a base model and leave the ZL1 camaro's to the people who know what the "ZL1 has ALWAYS stood for...."Maximum Performance with NO compromise."