How often does your rear end "step out"?
03-20-2013, 07:48 AM
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How often does your rear end "step out"?
I'm an older (LS2) base strippo coupe with no mods and a A6 plus the OEM tires, and while I absolutely love the car, and do not beat on it, it seems as though the rear end getting loose (traction) is a daily occurrence.
Is it just me?
The car has no obvious mechanical problems, runs like a top, but has always been tail-wagging happy. In the rain, in particular, I granny drive it as if I were driving on sheet glare ice.
The active handling warning pops up every time as well.
Am I just a lead foot?
How in the heck do you Johnnies with 500 RWHP keep it between the dotted lines?
Is it just me?
The car has no obvious mechanical problems, runs like a top, but has always been tail-wagging happy. In the rain, in particular, I granny drive it as if I were driving on sheet glare ice.
The active handling warning pops up every time as well.
Am I just a lead foot?
How in the heck do you Johnnies with 500 RWHP keep it between the dotted lines?
03-20-2013, 08:02 AM
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dont start on first gear - 1st to 2nd change is too strong and will break tires loose
dont stomp on the pedal, gradually accelerate to let tires hook up-you can shift fast and still accelerate fast but under control
the rest is driver control and knowing what to do is it goes sideways...
03-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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Unless I really step on it, the car handles well. Under hard/full throttle the rear end will break loose a bit with the tires spinning away. A feeling I love by the way and experience at least once each cruise.
But under normal conditions including wet pavement no issues and I have the stock runflats for tires.
But under normal conditions including wet pavement no issues and I have the stock runflats for tires.
03-20-2013, 08:36 AM
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Ease into the throttle and it is fine. Stomp it or "ease" too fast and it comes around. You have to give the nannies a little time to see the car is moving and the front and rear tires are not going the same speed. If the tires start spinning before the nannies see it they can get spinning too fast for the nannies to stop them. Tires and tire condition have a LOT to do with it. I can usually do full throttle in the rain up to 65 without an issue. Without the nannies I think that would be impossible. (BTW, WOT to 65 in the rain scares the crap out of passengers. 
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03-20-2013, 08:46 AM
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"How often"? Every time I ask it to. Otherwise it stays were it belongs. The couple times it didn't I was pushing a little to hard coming out of a turn and it caught me off guard.
03-20-2013, 08:48 AM
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Unless I really step on it, the car handles well. Under hard/full throttle the rear end will break loose a bit with the tires spinning away. A feeling I love by the way and experience at least once each cruise.
But under normal conditions including wet pavement no issues and I have the stock runflats for tires.
But under normal conditions including wet pavement no issues and I have the stock runflats for tires.
03-20-2013, 09:31 AM
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I'm an older (LS2) base strippo coupe with no mods and a A6 plus the OEM tires, and while I absolutely love the car, and do not beat on it, it seems as though the rear end getting loose (traction) is a daily occurrence.
Is it just me?
The car has no obvious mechanical problems, runs like a top, but has always been tail-wagging happy. In the rain, in particular, I granny drive it as if I were driving on sheet glare ice.
The active handling warning pops up every time as well.
Am I just a lead foot?
How in the heck do you Johnnies with 500 RWHP keep it between the dotted lines?
Is it just me?
The car has no obvious mechanical problems, runs like a top, but has always been tail-wagging happy. In the rain, in particular, I granny drive it as if I were driving on sheet glare ice.
The active handling warning pops up every time as well.
Am I just a lead foot?
How in the heck do you Johnnies with 500 RWHP keep it between the dotted lines?
The tires are summer and the rubber in cold temps become hard as rocks.
z51vett
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03-20-2013, 09:35 AM
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z51vett: Is the outside temp below 40 degrees are tires worn if so buy mich as runflats better ride noise and tire wear and traction.
The tires are summer and the rubber in cold temps become hard as rocks.
z51vett
Doug
The tires are summer and the rubber in cold temps become hard as rocks.
z51vett
Doug
Also, just as your tires get older the rubber gets hard and they will get squirrelly. Another factor is how much air you have in them. 
03-20-2013, 09:40 AM
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The rear of any of my Vettes will come around on demand but they rarely do because I don't demand it.
03-20-2013, 10:02 AM
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When stock my LS3 rarely just broke loose for no reason. I had to give it gas beyond normal driving.
Anyone who says under normal driving the rear gets out of line is driving like a 16 year kid on his way to get laid for the first time.
Even with the added power of the blower the rear doesnt get out of line at all unless I hammer on it. And for it to fish tail (the car tracks pretty straight) I have to crank the wheel.
If most people get sideways I think it is too much gas during a corner, they still have the wheel turned when they give it too much gas, they have worn tires, its wet out, or the tranny downshifts in mid corner. The shifting part happens and people get thrown in to a higher rpm and of course it is going to spin, common sense. Also, if you are hammering on it the 1-2 shift will spin some and it compounded by the wheels being turned even slightly.
Anyone who says under normal driving the rear gets out of line is driving like a 16 year kid on his way to get laid for the first time.
Even with the added power of the blower the rear doesnt get out of line at all unless I hammer on it. And for it to fish tail (the car tracks pretty straight) I have to crank the wheel.
If most people get sideways I think it is too much gas during a corner, they still have the wheel turned when they give it too much gas, they have worn tires, its wet out, or the tranny downshifts in mid corner. The shifting part happens and people get thrown in to a higher rpm and of course it is going to spin, common sense. Also, if you are hammering on it the 1-2 shift will spin some and it compounded by the wheels being turned even slightly.
03-20-2013, 10:03 AM
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03-20-2013, 10:41 AM
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03-20-2013, 10:53 AM
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I have had my GS almost a year now. It has the GY Gen2 tires. roads here in Phoenix don't get all that cold. When I first got it after it was broke in the car would barely ever spin the tires. I have never done a burn out. The I have noticed driving it lately that you need to be much more careful of the throttle input or you will get sideways real fast. Tires have just over 10K on them but still have plenty of tread. Would one year old tires get hard that fast?
03-20-2013, 11:18 AM
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"How often does your rear end "step out"?"
Just from acceleration....rarely. If you're losing it just driving on the streets I'd check your tires and your heavy foot.
I run road course events with my C6. Occasionally, the rear end will loose traction or the front end will push in a corner/curve but I've done it long enough I sort of know how to avoid going too far over the 'edge.' I'd rather put the car back on the trailer at the end of the weekend and take it home versus having it hauled to the body shop.
Just from acceleration....rarely. If you're losing it just driving on the streets I'd check your tires and your heavy foot.
I run road course events with my C6. Occasionally, the rear end will loose traction or the front end will push in a corner/curve but I've done it long enough I sort of know how to avoid going too far over the 'edge.' I'd rather put the car back on the trailer at the end of the weekend and take it home versus having it hauled to the body shop.