Paddle Shift, Shift Delay..08
03-28-2013, 03:18 PM
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Paddle Shift, Shift Delay..08
I rarely drive my wife's 08, but recently I did and tried out the paddle shift. It seems like there is a big delay between actually hitting the shift button and the trans actually shifting. We bought it last year with around 4000 miles on it and she has about 7500 now.
Do these things normally have such a long delay? If you are on it hard in 1st and shift at 5000 it will hit the rev limiter before it shifts. Just seems useless to have if it doesn't work.
Do these things normally have such a long delay? If you are on it hard in 1st and shift at 5000 it will hit the rev limiter before it shifts. Just seems useless to have if it doesn't work.
03-28-2013, 03:21 PM
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I've had my '09 vette for 3 years ... I never used my paddles just for that reason. I just recently received my COW tune and he adjusted the engine and transmission settings. My paddle shifters are a lot of fun now and are way smoother with his tune.
03-28-2013, 04:00 PM
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I rarely drive my wife's 08, but recently I did and tried out the paddle shift. It seems like there is a big delay between actually hitting the shift button and the trans actually shifting. We bought it last year with around 4000 miles on it and she has about 7500 now.
Do these things normally have such a long delay? If you are on it hard in 1st and shift at 5000 it will hit the rev limiter before it shifts. Just seems useless to have if it doesn't work.
Do these things normally have such a long delay? If you are on it hard in 1st and shift at 5000 it will hit the rev limiter before it shifts. Just seems useless to have if it doesn't work.
Yes, the paddles are useless in the auto trans vette, very disappointing. I was hoping to get an auto, but I just could not get over the fact that they were that bad/slow. I went with the manual and even though I'm tired of shifting gears, been driving nothing but manuals my whole life, it sure beats the alternative in the vette.
Folks swear that they get better with a tune, but I'm not spending that type of money on a car with a tranny that must be tuned just to seem even remotely usuable.
03-28-2013, 04:14 PM
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Depends on what you're using the paddles for. If it's flat out acceleration it's better to put the trans in S and let it shift itself. You can also use the paddle shifters to choose a gear for road racing, climbing hills, to keep the exhaust drone down, etc. I use mine when I do the BBORR because I don't want the trans doing anything I'm not expecting when I'm at 150+ mph. There are lots of reasons to use the paddle shifters, but pure hard acceleration isn't one of them, nor is simply driving around meekly, but then that's not what our cars are made for.
03-28-2013, 04:59 PM
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LG's tune sure helped mine. But as stated above for max performance in a straight line acceleration S is best.
I have heard that GM improved the paddles in newer models, but the 06-08 suck when left stock.
I have heard that GM improved the paddles in newer models, but the 06-08 suck when left stock.
03-28-2013, 05:46 PM
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Depends on what you're using the paddles for. If it's flat out acceleration it's better to put the trans in S and let it shift itself. You can also use the paddle shifters to choose a gear for road racing, climbing hills, to keep the exhaust drone down, etc. I use mine when I do the BBORR because I don't want the trans doing anything I'm not expecting when I'm at 150+ mph. There are lots of reasons to use the paddle shifters, but pure hard acceleration isn't one of them, nor is simply driving around meekly, but then that's not what our cars are made for.
leave it in S and just nail it and it'll shift instantly at Red Line through all the gears.At least that's how my 09 works.
Rarely do it, but if I use the paddles for hard acceleration, it still shifts almost instantly.
I just don't wait until the Revs are almost at Red Line to push the paddle.
Push the paddle at 500 - 700 RPM below Red Line and it works great without hitting the Limiter
03-28-2013, 05:46 PM
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Yes, the paddles are useless in the auto trans vette, very disappointing. I was hoping to get an auto, but I just could not get over the fact that they were that bad/slow. I went with the manual and even though I'm tired of shifting gears, been driving nothing but manuals my whole life, it sure beats the alternative in the vette.
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Yes, the paddles are useless in the auto trans vette, very disappointing. I was hoping to get an auto, but I just could not get over the fact that they were that bad/slow. I went with the manual and even though I'm tired of shifting gears, been driving nothing but manuals my whole life, it sure beats the alternative in the vette.
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The regional autocross champs (man and woman) in our area a couple of years ago, won their championships using a stock A6 and cleaned up on a whole lot of stick shift people.
Depends on what you're using the paddles for. If it's flat out acceleration it's better to put the trans in S and let it shift itself. You can also use the paddle shifters to choose a gear for road racing, climbing hills, to keep the exhaust drone down, etc. I use mine when I do the BBORR because I don't want the trans doing anything I'm not expecting when I'm at 150+ mph. There are lots of reasons to use the paddle shifters, but pure hard acceleration isn't one of them, nor is simply driving around meekly, but then that's not what our cars are made for.
Good explanation.
03-28-2013, 06:35 PM
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03-28-2013, 06:40 PM
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My 07, which seems to have far better [paddle shift] response than other A6s I've driven; has a second & half upshift delay .
I've gotten so used to it I don't think about it now.
However my downshifts are instantaneous when I want to accelerate particularly in highway situations. Car has incredible power.
There is a new shift table for the ECM that will help, offered later part of 08- I believe. So if you have a significant delay you can easily show it to the Tech at the dealership and they can reflash the ECM with the modified shifting points.
It made a noticeable difference with one of the other A6 drivers I associate with from time to time.
I've gotten so used to it I don't think about it now.
However my downshifts are instantaneous when I want to accelerate particularly in highway situations. Car has incredible power.
There is a new shift table for the ECM that will help, offered later part of 08- I believe. So if you have a significant delay you can easily show it to the Tech at the dealership and they can reflash the ECM with the modified shifting points.
It made a noticeable difference with one of the other A6 drivers I associate with from time to time.
03-28-2013, 06:54 PM
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Dang! Does your wife know you're hammering her Corvette? 
Tip: Normally, the automatic will upshift faster on its own than with the paddles, but the difference is minimal in Competitive Driving mode.
Tip: You can make the paddle shifters more responsive simply by disengaging Traction Control and Active Handling.
Just be careful... the nannies are there for a reason.
For more details see pgs 4-6 to 4-9 in this online version of your owner's manual: http://www.gmpartshouse.com/download...08corvette.pdf
Common Scenario: When you suddenly floor the gas pedal, the engine seems to "die." Especially likely if you're also steering. Very unsettling. And it's normal behavior for a stock C6 auto... designed to help keep you out of trouble... also helps assure longer life for the drivetrain. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
Bottom Line: Educate yourself... the Corvette is much more fun when you know how to use it.
Tip: Normally, the automatic will upshift faster on its own than with the paddles, but the difference is minimal in Competitive Driving mode.
Tip: You can make the paddle shifters more responsive simply by disengaging Traction Control and Active Handling.
Just be careful... the nannies are there for a reason.
For more details see pgs 4-6 to 4-9 in this online version of your owner's manual: http://www.gmpartshouse.com/download...08corvette.pdf
Common Scenario: When you suddenly floor the gas pedal, the engine seems to "die." Especially likely if you're also steering. Very unsettling. And it's normal behavior for a stock C6 auto... designed to help keep you out of trouble... also helps assure longer life for the drivetrain. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
Bottom Line: Educate yourself... the Corvette is much more fun when you know how to use it.
03-29-2013, 09:05 AM
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Dang! Does your wife know you're hammering her Corvette?
Tip: Normally, the automatic will upshift faster on its own than with the paddles, but the difference is minimal in Competitive Driving mode.
Tip: You can make the paddle shifters more responsive simply by disengaging Traction Control and Active Handling.
Just be careful... the nannies are there for a reason.
For more details see pgs 4-6 to 4-9 in this online version of your owner's manual: http://www.gmpartshouse.com/download...08corvette.pdf
Common Scenario: When you suddenly floor the gas pedal, the engine seems to "die." Especially likely if you're also steering. Very unsettling. And it's normal behavior for a stock C6 auto... designed to help keep you out of trouble... also helps assure longer life for the drivetrain. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
Bottom Line: Educate yourself... the Corvette is much more fun when you know how to use it.
Tip: Normally, the automatic will upshift faster on its own than with the paddles, but the difference is minimal in Competitive Driving mode.
Tip: You can make the paddle shifters more responsive simply by disengaging Traction Control and Active Handling.
Just be careful... the nannies are there for a reason.
For more details see pgs 4-6 to 4-9 in this online version of your owner's manual: http://www.gmpartshouse.com/download...08corvette.pdf
Common Scenario: When you suddenly floor the gas pedal, the engine seems to "die." Especially likely if you're also steering. Very unsettling. And it's normal behavior for a stock C6 auto... designed to help keep you out of trouble... also helps assure longer life for the drivetrain. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...blem-help.html
Bottom Line: Educate yourself... the Corvette is much more fun when you know how to use it.
No way she is going to let me start modding her car. I was just wondering.... In a pipe dream, I was thinking this car might be fun to hit the road course with, I don't really like auto's for going around a track, especially if you need to leave them in drive.
03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
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That's OK. I did Cow tune, it solved the paddle-shiftand many other issues. Best part......Chuck sat right next to me with his computer, making programming adjustments as we drove approximately 60 miles (Bowling Green to the Tennessee lone, and.back). It was.a very good thing poop was ignoring vettes that weekend.
If you can get enough guys, Chuck will come to you.
If you can get enough guys, Chuck will come to you.
03-30-2013, 12:51 AM
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One main issue with the A6 is that it can't shift when the torque converter has locked up. When you've been in a gear for a few seconds and are meeting certain acceleration and speed criteria, the torque converter locks. When you paddle shift, the transmission has to unlock before it begins the shift. That takes extra time.
Once I understood this and learned to tell when it was locked, I was able to anticipate the shift speed much better, and now it's second nature. Even though it's not nearly as fast as a dual-clutch, that extra half-second is no big deal anywhere, even on a road course.
Once I understood this and learned to tell when it was locked, I was able to anticipate the shift speed much better, and now it's second nature. Even though it's not nearly as fast as a dual-clutch, that extra half-second is no big deal anywhere, even on a road course.