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Old 05-10-2013, 08:28 PM   #1
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Default Just curious; Why the negativity toward the oem GY's

I'm on my second vette in the last 18 months ( new '12 coupe, new '13 GS ) and I don't seem to find the GY'S all that bad. I took the oem's off the coupe after 17k miles and they still had a good 75% left. When the weather was warm enough in N.Y. for the tires to be useful I thought they did a good job. After all they are a summer performance tire and I would not expect them to perform in anything but that environment. I did put super sports on at the 17k mark but that was to see what all the rage about the Michelin's was about. Although they did grip a little better than the GY's I still would have no problem with the GY's. Now today was around 80 degrees in N.Y. and it was really the first warm day since I got the '13 GS ( I bought it one month ago today from Tommy Jr. ) and I tell ya that thing really grabbed on some spirited driving. I launched the car once today ( my first launch with this car ) and it took off really well with out hardly any wheel hop. So do you guys not like the tire wear the grip or what gripes do you have for the GY's. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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I think it's safe to say that 90 to 95% of GS owners don't see close to 17k on their tires. I got 10k and three tires were toast and one that was barely serviceable. In general, they ride rough, wear fast and are noisy. If you're happy with yours, that's great.

My experience has not been nearly that positive

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because they suck in comparison to just about everything else
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #4
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Low mileage ware factor, noisy, hard riding and not good in cold weather and I live in Florida.
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All the above plus the Michelins were the same and cheaper in comparison. So far I really like the PS ZP's

I've ran 4 or 5 sets of SuperCars and wore them out at around 15,000 miles.
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i have the a6, coupe, so i gotta ask, what's with this launch thing with the m6? my nephew has it on his 012 ss camaro but never did explain it to me. if your taking off at a fast speed won't that put wear on the rubber? if so, why the hell would you? unless you guy's don't mind keeping gy and michelin in business.
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If you had 75% tread left after 17k miles, then they are just fine for your driving style gramps!
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i have the a6, coupe, so i gotta ask, what's with this launch thing with the m6? my nephew has it on his 012 ss camaro but never did explain it to me. if your taking off at a fast speed won't that put wear on the rubber? if so, why the hell would you? unless you guy's don't mind keeping gy and michelin in business.
Because these cars are meant to be driven hard? Waste of a good car taking it to get donuts on Sundays and car shows.
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because they suck in comparison to just about everything else
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:26 PM   #10
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I can't speak to GS, but Goodyears, I've had. And, I guess unlike others, I actually see some value in them. They're not the best but they are not awful considering their limited temperature and time of year limitations. Some Michelins and other brands are a bit (or a lot) more wide-band insofar as when you can use them safely, grip, noise, cost, lifespan, etc.
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when i had my 67 big block i still had respect for the car. why the hell would i drive it hard? that car got my donuts faster than your car, for sure. it's called "pride" when driving a vette, any vette. and i was only 23 when i had the 67, just not rowdy.
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you hit it on the head dickweed, i am a grandfather.
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when i had my 67 big block i still had respect for the car. why the hell would i drive it hard? that car got my donuts faster than your car, for sure. it's called "pride" when driving a vette, any vette. and i was only 23 when i had the 67, just not rowdy.
Sounds like a waste of time then. Why own a badass car if you drive it like an old man? Ill show you my pride with the hammer down.

Might as well be driving a Plymouth prowler.... Then you can look cool and be slow all the time.
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The OEM GY's were equivalent to the slate granite rollers that Fred Flinstone made famous. Horrible tires and I said as much after 5miles of ownership. I went non-RF with Pilot Super Sports and all this said I know GY can do a better job.
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I'm on my second vette in the last 18 months ( new '12 coupe, new '13 GS ) and I don't seem to find the GY'S all that bad. I took the oem's off the coupe after 17k miles and they still had a good 75% left. When the weather was warm enough in N.Y. for the tires to be useful I thought they did a good job. After all they are a summer performance tire and I would not expect them to perform in anything but that environment. I did put super sports on at the 17k mark but that was to see what all the rage about the Michelin's was about. Although they did grip a little better than the GY's I still would have no problem with the GY's. Now today was around 80 degrees in N.Y. and it was really the first warm day since I got the '13 GS ( I bought it one month ago today from Tommy Jr. ) and I tell ya that thing really grabbed on some spirited driving. I launched the car once today ( my first launch with this car ) and it took off really well with out hardly any wheel hop. So do you guys not like the tire wear the grip or what gripes do you have for the GY's. Inquiring minds want to know.
There are 2 different OE Goodyear tires, so which do you have? Most people will think they are fine until they get a real tire on the car for some time.

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Low mileage ware factor, noisy, hard riding and not good in cold weather and I live in Florida.
+1 (but in California). At 10k my Gen2's were shot, but at 7k they were slippery and loud.


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The OEM GY's were equivalent to the slate granite rollers that Fred Flinstone made famous. Horrible tires and I said as much after 5miles of ownership. I went non-RF with Pilot Super Sports and all this said I know GY can do a better job.
I went with these tires too, love them. I've had them on 3 cars now and they perform great in wet, dry, cold or hot.
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If you had 75% tread left after 17k miles, then they are just fine for your driving style gramps!
If your insinuating for me to abuse my car that ain't gonna happen. I'm not gonna be like some 22 year old idiot floor boarding from stop light to stop light and taking every turn 90 mph. But I do drive the car spiritedly when the occasion arises.
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I've had 4 sets of Goodyear tires on different vehicles, and only one set was worth a ****. The most recent ones were Forteras on my Grand Cherokee, and they were actually decent. The rest of the tires wore out prematurely, broke belts, had **** for traction, and were kidding my a screw that was maybe 4mm in length. Those were all relatively tame passenger car tires. IMO, if a company can't get passenger tires right, I'm not trusting them with sports car tires.

All 3 of our vehicles have Michelin tires, and I couldn't be happier about it.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:02 PM   #18
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Noise! 10k miles they sound like a dump truck. If you could rotate every 5k miles they would be ok but you can't.
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There are 2 different OE Goodyear tires, so which do you have? Most people will think they are fine until they get a real tire on the car for some time.
I have whatever comes on a '13 GS. Like I said I had the super sports on my '12 coupe after I took off the oem GY's and while they offered some better grip I wouldn't consider them earth shattering performance. As a matter of fact to me they rode hard and for my GF to notice the difference in ride quality ( she mentioned it without me even telling her I changed tires ) something must have been rattling our asses in the seat.
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well said. i bet fastskyline weaves in and out of traffic on rt.80 because he thinks he's cool. i laugh at people like him. take the car on the track where it's supposed to be if you want to drive it hard. me, i'll cruise around in mine and get the full enjoyment out of mine. signed, gramps
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