trading tiger

First, will the Z-5, applied by hand, really get rid of the swirl marks and fine scratches? I have a black GS and under certain light, it looks really good, I even have that "mirror like" finish, but under other light, it looks pretty bad with swirls everywhere. I guess I'm just looking for some personal experience and results with this product.

Second, can and/or should Zaino be applied over a clear bra? I have a clear bra on the nose and around the door handles. How does that affect anything regarding the application, removal, or any other steps in the process?

Thanks!

z51vett

Wolf dogs aka Ken can help you he's the zano expert and can tell you what products to use. He has a black corvette also. He helped me and I use it on my red car and yes I think it covers minors swirls and I call me scratches where a rags may have left marks.
You needed the drying enhancer and so forth again Ken is the man do a search he lives in Virgina.
z51vett
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peter pan

What he said look up Wolfdogs he is the forum Zaino expert

Top_Fuel

You might want to check out the Care Care section. If you're using a mild product by hand, you may not be doing anything other than covering up the problem. Here are a couple of threads related to swirl marks...

Brand new 2013 Black GS with slight swirls - What product to use?

Still have swirl marks after Zaino Z5

Firewater Burns

If you really want a good start, pay to have it detailed. I would think a shop will put what ever polish on the car you give them after they have done their thing with the buffing compounds.

For my own experience, I dont remember seeing many swirl marks on my DSOM, but that may be due to the color. I have read that progressive coats will diminish the flaws. After about the 3rd coat of Z5 I remember the most difference in terms of luster. I am on the 8th or so coat now and the paint looks "wet" after I wipe off the Z5 and keep it dusted. The only flaws I can see in my paint these days are a couple bird crap stains that wont come out, the small rock/road debris chips, and the door dings. A daily driver cant always avoid this to my chagrin.

I like Bugman's website for a little 'how to' on detailing. This pic (if it loads) is from his section on claybar marring and using Zanios to reduce or remove the swirl.




I can hear the Rejex people a rustling.

LFZ

Zaino isn't going to cover swirls...got to get some paint correction on there first. Take it to a detailed or invest in a PC, pads, polish/ compounds, read read read, and go at it yourself.

Kvothe

I use Zaino and you can still see some light scratches under certain lighting conditions. Most of the time you have to be looking at the car under fluorescent lighting and at the right angle to see them.

If your swirls are bad correct them first then seal with Z. If you don't it the optical clarity of Z may make them even more noticeable.

Homer3D

Welcome to the world of owning a black car.

As much as I like Zaino, it does not really do any paint correction. It is very mild and does great at bringing out the shine...but getting rid of swirls not so much. You will need something stronger.

On my brand NEW 2013 black GS, the paint was a mess so I did this.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/car-...on-the-c6.html

trading tiger

I remember reading that thread because I too have a black '13 GS. I think it came swirled from the dealer because I've been pretty careful about how and what I use to wash it with.

I did not get the answers I was hoping for regarding the Z-5, I really don't want to take a DA polisher to my paint, I've never done it before. Hearing/reading about your experience gives me a little more confidence, but I think if I decide to go that route, I'll practice on my old truck first before moving on to the vette.

Another question, what's the difference between the Z-CS (Clear Seal) and Z-2 or Z-5?

Homer3D

Z-CS is a sealant
Z-2 and Z-5 is a polish

seamus2154

Use Zaino Fusion w/ an orange pad. Then w/ a white pad. It is diminishing so stay on bigger scratches a bit longer and work it as it wears down. The as you will notice how well it works seal it up w/ Z5 after a wash and dry.

saplumr

For clear coat imperfections use 3M products and corresponding pads. Therer's nothing z makes for proper paint correction.

JJC5

Yes to the clear bra question. Always keep a few good coats on the clear bra just NEVER use a clay bar on it. The material will swirl like crazy.
Z5 (the blue one) is the best for filling scratches. Remember that it doesn't remove them because it is not abrasive; it fills the swirls. Use two coats of Z5 then go to Z3 for the best shine. I swear by Zaino...used most all of the others and went back. I too have a black car.

Patman

I have found that Z5 has very little in the way of swirl filling ability. It will make a very slight difference, but in this case it sounds like you need to use something more aggressive first.

When I picked up my C6 a month ago the previous owner had definitely not taken care of the paint that well as it had a lot of swirls in it. I spent 2 hours on the finish with my DA and managed to get it about 75% to my satisfaction and was hoping the top coat of Z5 might just fill in the rest but it really didn't. So I'm going to have another go round on the finish, this time I bought a product called HD Polish which I've heard a lot of good things about. Then I'm going to top it with Z2 this time around, as I've found it brings out the shine a bit better than Z5, especially with metallic colors like Lemans Blue.

I have had good luck in the past on my black C5 with Meguiar's NXT and NXT 2.0 in terms of it's swirl hiding ability. It only hides them for a short time (a couple of weeks) but it's a decent stop gap measure that I used on my C5 until I had time to go to town with the DA and more aggressive compounds.

Kvothe

I think you mean Z2. Z2 does have a better shine to it IMO.

billyboy47

i have the nrb 013 and just ordered zaino car products. reading this thread doesn't sound to positive for zaino. did i make a mistake buying the zaino?

saplumr

The bulk of us have tried it all. It works for some and others have gone back to old reliables.

Kvothe

Not at all. Try it and you'll see. It really does have an awesome shine to it and will bring out that fleck in your paint

Plus it lasts a very long time.

seamus2154

I guess you don't use Zaino or you would know Fusion works excellent for his issue.

saplumr

I don't use zaino for good reason. If you think that is anywhere near as effective as 3M professional products you haven't had used them.