Tough Choice... What Would You Do?
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not08, Wow! Is it the exact same HUD as the factory version?
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Very tough choice but a good problem to have....
If I could buy the GS and add a few mods I would. If I could not add anything, I would get the 2lt. Boy, that was hard, probably hate myself in the morning.
Yes, they have kits for the HUD.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...rts-house.html
If I could buy the GS and add a few mods I would. If I could not add anything, I would get the 2lt. Boy, that was hard, probably hate myself in the morning.
Yes, they have kits for the HUD.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...rts-house.html
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Andrew of this thread is the hud install guy as well as Steve Doten in Connecticut. Andrew has colored HUD too.
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Go for the 1LT GS. I just got one almost 3 months ago after I sold my C5. the widebody is way better looking than the base C6. With the 2LT all u get is HUD & GM's crappy Bose system. A waste of $2k. The handling & brakes on the GS are awesome.
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Cool info on the HUD! I'm leaning GS-ward at this point. Thinking I might paint the calipers blue, add a HUD and call it good. Any good caliper paint kits out there?
#49
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I would work up my list of wants for the C7 and place my preorder with my dealer of choice. Why wait? I know give them a chance to work out all the bugs and all the other non valid reasons.
#51
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Just buy and drive the first C7 until your "perfect" C7 is built in a few years.
Will definately minimize depreciation like you want over an old model which you will loose your *** on.
By driving the first year C7 it will also help you in knowing what you will ultimately want in your perfect C7.
Don't waste your time and money on an old one if the new one you really want is right around the corner.
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Cool info on the HUD! I'm leaning GS-ward at this point. Thinking I might paint the calipers blue, add a HUD and call it good. Any good caliper paint kits out there?
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If the plan really is to move to a C7 in two years the value of your C5 isn't going to change much over that time period but the value of the 13 will drop like a rock in comparison to the C5 change. If we were having this discussion 12 months ago I would probably say go with the 13 since we really didn't know much about the C7. Now you know you want one. Work toward that goal not an intermediate goal that could keep you from achieving the ultimate goal.
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Bettermost: Yeah, that's what I thought at first, but it's an E Coast to W Coast trip, and enclosed shipping. I looked into open trailers, but that's just too risky for me.
Regarding buying a C7 now: I just can't bring myself to pay MSRP. As an example, the 2013 base coupe MSRP is $49,600, and dealer invoice is $45,136. That's a $4,464 dealer markup, BEFORE their 3% holdback (based on MSRP without destination charge)--$1,488 in this case. Thus the dealer makes $5,950 on MSRP in this case, and that's on a stripped car with no options. Supposedly there are other kickbacks for dealers too, but they're not easily accessible. Point is, C7s are going for MSRP right now, and most of the initial depreciation will be accounted for in dealer profit. BTW, I totally get that--I'd sell at MSRP if I were a dealer and I could. That's how supply/demand works. I fact, I think it's cool that several forum dealers won't mark up from MSRP at the moment. I simply choose not to participate.
On the other hand, currently GM is offering $5,000 worth of rebates ($2K for everyone and $3K for current Corvette owners) on the 2013s, PLUS dealers need to clear them out, so they're willing to make less on each car or even sell at a slight loss to move them. The GS I'm looking at is $56,915 MSRP, and $51,657 invoice. After holdback, it costs the dealer $49,949. With the $5K in rebates, the price I'm looking at is a little under $44K, which means this dealer is losing money to sell the car (rebates are from the FACTORY, not the dealer, so they're really selling a little under $49K). However, they're only losing about a thousand bucks, and they have to move cars to make way for the C7 cash cow. It's part of the cost of getting those new C7s on the showroom floor.
In short, I dig the C7 idea, but I'm not willing to pay the premium for the first year or two. One day I might, but for now I'm really feeling the C6 and the clearance fever. I know the C6 will take a hit, but I don't think it'll be THAT bad. My '02 held its value pretty well after the C6 came out, and I think the current incentives offered plus dealer motivation to sell equals a unique opportunity.
Sorry. WAAAAAY too much math for this early hour.
Regarding buying a C7 now: I just can't bring myself to pay MSRP. As an example, the 2013 base coupe MSRP is $49,600, and dealer invoice is $45,136. That's a $4,464 dealer markup, BEFORE their 3% holdback (based on MSRP without destination charge)--$1,488 in this case. Thus the dealer makes $5,950 on MSRP in this case, and that's on a stripped car with no options. Supposedly there are other kickbacks for dealers too, but they're not easily accessible. Point is, C7s are going for MSRP right now, and most of the initial depreciation will be accounted for in dealer profit. BTW, I totally get that--I'd sell at MSRP if I were a dealer and I could. That's how supply/demand works. I fact, I think it's cool that several forum dealers won't mark up from MSRP at the moment. I simply choose not to participate.
On the other hand, currently GM is offering $5,000 worth of rebates ($2K for everyone and $3K for current Corvette owners) on the 2013s, PLUS dealers need to clear them out, so they're willing to make less on each car or even sell at a slight loss to move them. The GS I'm looking at is $56,915 MSRP, and $51,657 invoice. After holdback, it costs the dealer $49,949. With the $5K in rebates, the price I'm looking at is a little under $44K, which means this dealer is losing money to sell the car (rebates are from the FACTORY, not the dealer, so they're really selling a little under $49K). However, they're only losing about a thousand bucks, and they have to move cars to make way for the C7 cash cow. It's part of the cost of getting those new C7s on the showroom floor.
In short, I dig the C7 idea, but I'm not willing to pay the premium for the first year or two. One day I might, but for now I'm really feeling the C6 and the clearance fever. I know the C6 will take a hit, but I don't think it'll be THAT bad. My '02 held its value pretty well after the C6 came out, and I think the current incentives offered plus dealer motivation to sell equals a unique opportunity.
Sorry. WAAAAAY too much math for this early hour.
#56
I understand your reluctance to pay MSRP on the C7 but that is really a bargin compared to what dealers were doing to the price of C5's and C6's when they first came out. Besides, in two years the 2013 will drop in value much, much more then the amount you feel you would overpay for the C7 if bought now. My 1.5 year old 4LT GS vert. is down over $20,000 from MSRP and after the C7's come out it will take another hit. With the warrenty GM has I wouldn't hesitate to buy a C7 in the first year. I really like my C6 but find I wish I had waited for the C7. My 2002 C5 was a great car and would have kept being a great car until this fall. Good luck with your choice.
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Thanks, John. Wow, that really is something to think about... $20K? Ouch. I hope it doesn't take too much more of a hit with the introduction of the C7.
I figure I'll lose some money over two or three years, of course, and I'm okay with that. I just really think that getting the car for $10K below MSRP, AFTER tax is a great deal. I think it'll help, but not entirely mitigate, the hit to resale the C7 will cause.
I figure I'll lose some money over two or three years, of course, and I'm okay with that. I just really think that getting the car for $10K below MSRP, AFTER tax is a great deal. I think it'll help, but not entirely mitigate, the hit to resale the C7 will cause.
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I understand your reluctance to pay MSRP on the C7 but that is really a bargin compared to what dealers were doing to the price of C5's and C6's when they first came out. Besides, in two years the 2013 will drop in value much, much more then the amount you feel you would overpay for the C7 if bought now. My 1.5 year old 4LT GS vert. is down over $20,000 from MSRP and after the C7's come out it will take another hit. With the warrenty GM has I wouldn't hesitate to buy a C7 in the first year. I really like my C6 but find I wish I had waited for the C7. My 2002 C5 was a great car and would have kept being a great car until this fall. Good luck with your choice.
MSRP, while a bogeyman that few like to pay, is just numbers, too. And that's why I agree w. John's numbers above. It's one thing to take a $10K+ hit on a used C6 sometime down the road. It's yet another cost to factor in how much is the value reduction of generational changes. Just ask the C5 owners who, one to two years into the C6 generation, saw their numbers go way down, then stabilize.
Better yet, ask a salesperson who has been selling Corvettes for awhile (more than one gen), and knows the history of prices AND doesn't have an axe to grind (as in, desperate to get you to sign up today for a new car).
Unless, of course, paying five to ten K or more, doesn't mean much to you. In which case, for you, it's all about paying MSRP, and money isn't a factor because if you pay more later (by losing more on your C6), it's ok as long as you don't pay MSRP for a new car.
There are people like that and I'm not knocking you if that's your approach.