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Old 06-23-2013, 04:00 AM
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:28 AM
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i'm at work and have no way but here to keep up. how's team corvette doing? how mmuch time left? it should be getting close.
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i'm at work and have no way but here to keep up. how's team corvette doing? how mmuch time left? it should be getting close.
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Old 06-23-2013, 08:04 AM
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Chevy running 4th #74 and 6th #73.
Old 06-23-2013, 08:12 AM
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It doesn't look good for the vettes to win... Oh well, go C7Rs next year. Just started watching again, what's the yellow for? Let them race, only 50mins left.
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No it doesn't. Unless there is some sort of mishap. Looks like rain, crashes, pit stop mistakes has helped Chevy move up a a few slot.

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Originally Posted by snakedr
chevy running 4th #74 and 6th #73.
73 =4

74= 6
Old 06-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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After briefly moving to 5th, Gavin pitted, and sat out 2 laps and went back out for the checker. Not sure if there was a car problem or if team Corvette decided 7th was as good as 5th. Final was 4th and 7th.
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:24 AM
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I watched a hour of it yesterday and the final 30 minutes today. This was the first non NASCAR race I have ever watched and I did it only to see how the Vettes were doing. That had to be the most boring race I have seen. Everything about the race was foreign to me. From the relaxed pit stops, the red flashing brake lights, to what looked like the cars coasting across the finish line. Then on the podium there's 10 drivers being honored and nobody really seems to be happily celebrating and they're all wearing flower wreaths. Ghey.

What a contrast from NASCAR were they bump, bang, and dump each other at 200 mph, and the winner whips into victory lane, someone slams a 12 pack of beer on the roof, and everyone is high fiving.

At least the Vettes finished respectable, and ahead of the viper
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Originally Posted by TKgs2010
Aston Martin and Porsche were both given larger restrictors on the intake, and Porsche was given a weight break and an increase in fuel capacity. The European teams all had the chance to run the latest Michelin compound tires the last 2 races in Europe while Corvette got to run the for the first time on Thursday, plus Corvette was given a smaller restrictor and a weight penalty. Nothing like stacking the odds a bit, there has been a lot of talk in the paddock of sandbagging on the pare to both Porsche and Aston Martin in prior races to get the concessions, now they're both showing their hand.


The Vettes were screwed it looked like, but they soldiered on.
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Well,all things considered,we did ok. RIP to the ASTON DRIVER..
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Originally Posted by US Icon
I watched a hour of it yesterday and the final 30 minutes today. This was the first non NASCAR race I have ever watched and I did it only to see how the Vettes were doing. That had to be the most boring race I have seen. Everything about the race was foreign to me. From the relaxed pit stops, the red flashing brake lights, to what looked like the cars coasting across the finish line. Then on the podium there's 10 drivers being honored and nobody really seems to be happily celebrating and they're all wearing flower wreaths. Ghey.

What a contrast from NASCAR were they bump, bang, and dump each other at 200 mph, and the winner whips into victory lane, someone slams a 12 pack of beer on the roof, and everyone is high fiving.

At least the Vettes finished respectable, and ahead of the viper
To each his own, but I feel NASCAR is a waste of time. If you have never watched any real sports car racing, you cannot judge it by simply watching the little you did.
The difference in NASCAR and Le Mans or any of the ALMS and WEC events is night and day. I was once a NASCAR loyalist but that stopped when it went from a true race event to an entertainment event. It seems it is all about the corporate image now.
As far as the coasting over the finish line. that is usually due to the fact that the lead car has built up a lead where they have the luxury and it is almost a tradition at Le Mans to have that photo at the finish line. Le Mans is one of if not the most iconic race in the world and the amount of teams that compete as well as the amount of viewers is most likely the largest in the world.
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Originally Posted by US Icon
I watched a hour of it yesterday and the final 30 minutes today. This was the first non NASCAR race I have ever watched and I did it only to see how the Vettes were doing. That had to be the most boring race I have seen. Everything about the race was foreign to me. From the relaxed pit stops, the red flashing brake lights, to what looked like the cars coasting across the finish line. Then on the podium there's 10 drivers being honored and nobody really seems to be happily celebrating and they're all wearing flower wreaths. Ghey.

What a contrast from NASCAR were they bump, bang, and dump each other at 200 mph, and the winner whips into victory lane, someone slams a 12 pack of beer on the roof, and everyone is high fiving.

At least the Vettes finished respectable, and ahead of the viper
Hey, I happen to watch every single NASCAR Cup race, but you trying to judge sports car racing with your small amount of exposure is like if I watched only the Daytona 500 race this year and then judged NASCAR based on a few minutes worth of that race. And that Daytona was hands-down the most boring race that I have ever watched. Period. But I didn't stop watching NASCAR and I don't judge a racing series by only viewing roughly 6% of one race.

Like BWF07 said, they have just finished RACING FOR 24 FRIGGIN HOURS STRAIGHT. And it is taking place in France and is dominated by European teams. So of course it isn't going to be exactly like what you see in the USA.

You are of course entitled to your opinion and you are free to watch or not watch whatever races you want. But it might behoove you to try and have a little bit more of an open mind before you go making rash judgments, both of types of racing and of things in life in general.

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Originally Posted by US Icon
I watched a hour of it yesterday and the final 30 minutes today. This was the first non NASCAR race I have ever watched and I did it only to see how the Vettes were doing. That had to be the most boring race I have seen. Everything about the race was foreign to me. From the relaxed pit stops, the red flashing brake lights, to what looked like the cars coasting across the finish line. Then on the podium there's 10 drivers being honored and nobody really seems to be happily celebrating and they're all wearing flower wreaths. Ghey.

What a contrast from NASCAR were they bump, bang, and dump each other at 200 mph, and the winner whips into victory lane, someone slams a 12 pack of beer on the roof, and everyone is high fiving.

At least the Vettes finished respectable, and ahead of the viper
Maybe you missed it, but a driver died at the race this year, and hence no one was really in the mood celebrate.

Another thing you might have missed is that is was raining hard over portions of the track at the finish. At that point, if you've worked 23.5 hours to build up a 1 lap lead, you don't risk it by flying forward over the last 30 minutes. Definitely different than a 2 hour race. I'm sure the NASCAR drivers go full out in the rain....oh wait....

But yes, if you enjoy (and millions of people do) two hours of bumping and drafting in technology as old as any of us in the forum (hey at least there is fuel injection now), this race isn't for you. Just like NASCAR isn't for me (but it is for many).


Also, if you really do have an interest in sports car racing but didn't like the 24 hour type races, I might suggest you try to catch some of the shorter American Le Mans Series races (or Grand AM), as many of those are 2 and half hours or so, and as such, you will get the quick pit stops and the race to the finish that you like, but on a road course with multiple classes driving at once.
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Originally Posted by BWF07
To each his own, but I feel NASCAR is a waste of time. If you have never watched any real sports car racing, you cannot judge it by simply watching the little you did.
The difference in NASCAR and Le Mans or any of the ALMS and WEC events is night and day. I was once a NASCAR loyalist but that stopped when it went from a true race event to an entertainment event. It seems it is all about the corporate image now.
As far as the coasting over the finish line. that is usually due to the fact that the lead car has built up a lead where they have the luxury and it is almost a tradition at Le Mans to have that photo at the finish line. Le Mans is one of if not the most iconic race in the world and the amount of teams that compete as well as the amount of viewers is most likely the largest in the world.
Good points, and I agree with NASCAR becoming corporate and more pussified than decades ago. But this le Mans, I don't know man, it was not entertaining. I saw only a handfull of passes. But admitadly I only saw a small percentage of the race. The cars are autos and sound like rice. I'll take a Daytona/Talladega race anyday.

I guess I'm just not into road courses.....

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I guess I'm just not into road courses.....
Then make sure you don't watch the NASCAR Cup race at the Sonoma ROAD COURSE today!
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Originally Posted by US Icon
Good points, and I agree with NASCAR becoming corporate and more pussified than decades ago. But this le Mans, I don't know man, it was not entertaining. I saw only a handfull of passes. But admitadly I only saw a small percentage of the race. The cars are autos and sound like rice. I'll take a Daytona/Talladega race anyday.

I guess I'm just not into road courses.....
As I said to each his own. As far as you judgment of Le Mans compared to NASCAR, again an hour and half of a 24 hour race is know way to try and judge an event that you truly have know idea of what is going on to start with (no disrespect intended).
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I was saddened to hear anyone was killed at Lemans. But I also watched some of the race and was wondering how come the Corvettes, and Vipers for that matter were so slow behind the Astons and Porsches. Just the opposite of street machines. Then I read about all the penalties and restrictions to the Corvette team and I think no wonder. They were lucky to finish 4th. But the real task is trying to explain that to my wife. She cannot understand why they bother and I wonder why myself.


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