What tires ya runnin ???
#21
No, no jack.
In 50 years of driving I have been in only one car ( not mine either) that the tire went flat leaving us to change the tire.
The RF tire just offers to much compromise in ride and handling for what I consider a unneeded technology.
As mentioned a repair kept with a air compressor is easily stowed in the rear cubby.
Also pre trip inspection will detect a problem in the tire that could led to a further problem down the road.
For me it is a non issue, the RF just are to stiff and rough.
Even with near 3 million miles of commercial big rig driving spanning 35 years,with 18 tires, I have only a couple of totally flat tires while driving.
Blow outs are not common with the new tire technology, unlike the tires of many decades ago.
In 50 years of driving I have been in only one car ( not mine either) that the tire went flat leaving us to change the tire.
The RF tire just offers to much compromise in ride and handling for what I consider a unneeded technology.
As mentioned a repair kept with a air compressor is easily stowed in the rear cubby.
Also pre trip inspection will detect a problem in the tire that could led to a further problem down the road.
For me it is a non issue, the RF just are to stiff and rough.
Even with near 3 million miles of commercial big rig driving spanning 35 years,with 18 tires, I have only a couple of totally flat tires while driving.
Blow outs are not common with the new tire technology, unlike the tires of many decades ago.
#22
Burning Brakes
WIN WIN WIN WIN
#23
Race Car Tech
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S High Performance with ZP for me after 17,000 SHORT miles on the "summer" stockers on my Z51. Michelins offer longer life with an extended cruising season for less money, with less noise and outstanding handling. Can't beat that with a stick.
WIN WIN WIN WIN
WIN WIN WIN WIN
That's why I'm not sure if I want to go with the Firestone RF, or stay with the Indy's. I know the Indy's are quiet, good handling and great in wet conditions.
#25
Racer
#26
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S High Performance with ZP for me after 17,000 SHORT miles on the "summer" stockers on my Z51. Michelins offer longer life with an extended cruising season for less money, with less noise and outstanding handling. Can't beat that with a stick.
WIN WIN WIN WIN
WIN WIN WIN WIN
#27
Race Car Tech
#28
If you got 17K on your GY Supercars, then you did good. Mine were very dangerous to drive after about 10K. Couldn't keep them from hydroplaning with the slightest rainfall on the higways. For safety sake, I changed to the Indy 500's, and never had any issues in the rain, and on one 4500 mile well documented road trip, we drove in rain almost every day, and some were monsoon type rains. The car never waivered on any wet highway.
That's why I'm not sure if I want to go with the Firestone RF, or stay with the Indy's. I know the Indy's are quiet, good handling and great in wet conditions.
That's why I'm not sure if I want to go with the Firestone RF, or stay with the Indy's. I know the Indy's are quiet, good handling and great in wet conditions.
#29
Race Car Tech
I wouldn't say that the Indy's have no grip, they are rated A which is 0.47g on wet asphalt compared to AA and 0.58G with the michelins. These UTGC tests are carried out on wet asphalt, and don't do turn tests etc on dry asphalt or dry concrete.
Traction Grades
UTQG Traction Grades are based on the tire's straight line wet coefficient of traction as the tire skids across the specified test surfaces. The UTQG traction test does not evaluate dry braking, dry cornering, wet cornering, or high speed hydroplaning resistance.
The Traction Grade is determined by installing properly inflated test tires on the instrumented axle of a "skid trailer." The skid trailer is pulled behind a truck at a constant 40 mph over wet asphalt and wet concrete test surfaces. Its brakes are momentarily locked and the axle sensors measure the tire's coefficient of friction (braking g forces) as it slides. Since this test evaluates a sliding tire at a constant 40 mph, it places more emphasis on the tire's tread compound and less emphasis on its tread design.
In 1997, the UTQG Traction Grades were revised to provide a new category of AA for the highest performing tires in addition to the earlier A, B and C grades. Previously the A grade had been the highest available and was awarded to tires that offered wet coefficients of traction above 0.47 g on asphalt and 0.35 g on concrete.
There is no question that Michelin pretty much leads in every category with comparable tires.
You will be making a great choice for your needs.
Last edited by 4SUMERZ; 07-31-2013 at 11:10 PM.
#30
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I bought these a few months ago and they are great tires. Very quiet and the ride is great. Perfect for spirited driving. I haven't put them through any 1g turns but they grip great merging or winding through twisty back roads. I don't track my car but if you do you probably shouldn't be running an A/S tire anyway.
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#40
Drifting
Kumho Ecsta SPT's were on my 05 Vette when I bought it about a month ago, and I'm happy with them so far. Have only gone about 2500 miles so far, but planning about a 3000 mile road trip soon. (round trip)
After reading some reviews on these tires, I don't think u can find a better tire for the price.
After reading some reviews on these tires, I don't think u can find a better tire for the price.