C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Car shakes at 180mph+? autobahn issues...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-10-2013, 06:13 AM
  #1  
kotik
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
kotik's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2009
Location: Kaiserslautern
Posts: 1,188
Received 88 Likes on 22 Posts

Default Car shakes at 180mph+? autobahn issues...

When i approach 180-190 mph the car starts violently shaking. There are no shakes at 150-160. My alignment was done recently, wheels are balanced, although rear wheel is bent a little, but balanced normally, and doesn't jump around on the stand. It comes in very violently, like someone on both sides is shaking it. I don't think it happens every time, at first I was sure it was due to wind, but i'm curious if there could be another cause to it.
Old 09-10-2013, 06:43 AM
  #2  
Tide Will Roll!
Drifting
 
Tide Will Roll!'s Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: "Sweet Home Alabama"
Posts: 1,931
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

How many runs at that speed has it did the violent shaking?

That may be hard to figure out because it may become catastrophic while trying to diagnose.

I would start with the bent wheel.
Old 09-10-2013, 06:52 AM
  #3  
need-for-speed
Team Owner
 
need-for-speed's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2000
Location: Conroe Texas
Posts: 35,254
Received 865 Likes on 608 Posts
CI 1-4-5-8-9-10 Vet
St. Jude Donor '03,'04,'05,'07,08,'09,'10,’17

Default

Originally Posted by Tide Will Roll!
How many runs at that speed has it did the violent shaking?

That may be hard to figure out because it may become catastrophic while trying to diagnose.

I would start with the bent wheel.
Exactly ! Bent wheel at 180 mph.....WTF ?
Old 09-10-2013, 07:01 AM
  #4  
Don-Vette
Race Director
 
Don-Vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2011
Location: Tonawanda New York
Posts: 11,976
Received 451 Likes on 349 Posts

Default

Taking the car to that speed with a bent wheel is stupidity IMO. Unless of course,you have a death wish. I would replace the wheel and inflate the tires to the recommendation for that speed.
Old 09-10-2013, 07:34 AM
  #5  
jack5hd
Burning Brakes
 
jack5hd's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 967
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

BENT WHEEL...WHAT TIRES ARE YOU RUNNING?GOOD YEARS HAVE DIFFERENT INFLATION VALUES FOR DIFFERENT SPEEDS.
Old 09-10-2013, 07:39 AM
  #6  
rstrait
Racer
 
rstrait's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2012
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

A bent wheel at that speed is almost certainly the problem. When things go wrong at high speed it's all bad. Unless you've got a death wish don't go fast on a bent rim.
Old 09-10-2013, 08:23 AM
  #7  
IrishSpuds
Le Mans Master
 
IrishSpuds's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: Between North and South Pole
Posts: 8,970
Received 463 Likes on 243 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-'20-'21-'22-'23


Default

Jesus wept man, that's suicide! I had a minutely bent rim (a big shout out to the folks that repair our NJ roads HORRIBLY) that I am having fixed today. Almost invisible to the eye, on the inside of the rim, and this caused the shakes (though not violent) at 70 MPH. I imagine any Vette not in pristine shape is liable to kill you above 150. Fix it, put in a roll cage if you are tracking at that speed.
Old 09-10-2013, 08:48 AM
  #8  
z51vett
Le Mans Master
 
z51vett's Avatar
 
Member Since: Feb 2002
Location: cumming ga
Posts: 5,394
Received 277 Likes on 169 Posts

Default

He's on the street in Germany autobahn not track.
z51vett
Doug
Old 09-10-2013, 10:37 AM
  #9  
IrishSpuds
Le Mans Master
 
IrishSpuds's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: Between North and South Pole
Posts: 8,970
Received 463 Likes on 243 Posts
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15-'16-'17-'18-'19-'20-'21-'22-'23


Default

Originally Posted by z51vett
He's on the street in Germany autobahn not track.
z51vett
Doug
Still would consider it on the autobahn, with the exception of a few areas, the autobahn is truly showing its age.
Old 09-10-2013, 10:59 AM
  #10  
Steve_R
Team Owner

Support Corvetteforum!
 
Steve_R's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: Anger Island
Posts: 45,945
Received 3,290 Likes on 1,400 Posts
St. Jude Donor '12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17

Default

190 mph on a public road with a known bent wheel? Are you serious? Hopefully you'll only kill yourself and not take someone else out with you.
Old 09-10-2013, 11:04 AM
  #11  
APACHEDR1V3R
Instructor
 
APACHEDR1V3R's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2013
Location: Central TX
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kotik
When i approach 180-190 mph the car starts violently shaking. There are no shakes at 150-160. My alignment was done recently, wheels are balanced, although rear wheel is bent a little, but balanced normally, and doesn't jump around on the stand. It comes in very violently, like someone on both sides is shaking it. I don't think it happens every time, at first I was sure it was due to wind, but i'm curious if there could be another cause to it.
I know you've seen those little crosses w/flowers on the sides of the autobahn...Have you ever wondered what lead up those being placed there?

Be safe while diagnosing.
Old 09-10-2013, 11:40 AM
  #12  
not08crmanymore
Team Owner
 
not08crmanymore's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2003
Location: queensbury ny
Posts: 57,309
Received 138 Likes on 119 Posts

Default

You have a bent wheel and you're wondering why your car shakes??Alrighty then!!
Old 09-10-2013, 11:48 AM
  #13  
JJC5
Safety Car
 
JJC5's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2006
Location: Anaheim Hills, Ca
Posts: 4,254
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

And you guys are all believing this??
Old 09-10-2013, 12:14 PM
  #14  
David Terrebonne
Intermediate
 
David Terrebonne's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2008
Location: Grand Isle LA
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think you are getting ready for take off, you need to expand your wings
Old 09-10-2013, 12:23 PM
  #15  
ls1121
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
ls1121's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Charlotte NC
Posts: 8,049
Received 319 Likes on 225 Posts
St. Jude Donor '14-'15

Default

you have a bent wheel and knowingly drive at that speed. Please sell your car.
Old 09-10-2013, 12:33 PM
  #16  
Hameister
Le Mans Master
 
Hameister's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 7,750
Received 165 Likes on 98 Posts
2015 C6 of the Year Finalist
Default

Originally Posted by JJC5
And you guys are all believing this??


It is impossible for me to believe, that anyone would ask for an explanation, of violent shaking at extreme speeds, and then casually mention, and dismiss a bent wheel, as a possible cause.

Gimmee a break, the OP cannot be serious.
Old 09-10-2013, 12:56 PM
  #17  
APACHEDR1V3R
Instructor
 
APACHEDR1V3R's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2013
Location: Central TX
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hameister


It is impossible for me to believe, that anyone would ask for an explanation, of violent shaking at extreme speeds, and then casually mention, and dismiss a bent wheel, as a possible cause.

Gimmee a break, the OP cannot be serious.
I've had young soldiers tell me the same thing about their cars when we run vehicle safety inspections. I've experienced it in Germany, Korea, and here in the US. They get told as long as it balances, it's fine. It's mostly kids running fart cans, but nonetheless, they'll believe and justify it due to money issues. In their minds, it's dismissed as a cause for later problems.

Get notified of new replies

To Car shakes at 180mph+? autobahn issues...

Old 09-10-2013, 01:00 PM
  #18  
michaelinmech
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
michaelinmech's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2007
Location: Mechanicsburg Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,535
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by kotik
When i approach 180-190 mph the car starts violently shaking. There are no shakes at 150-160. My alignment was done recently, wheels are balanced, although rear wheel is bent a little, but balanced normally, and doesn't jump around on the stand. It comes in very violently, like someone on both sides is shaking it. I don't think it happens every time, at first I was sure it was due to wind, but i'm curious if there could be another cause to it.

^ Perhaps the violent shaking will cease between 191 - 200 mph ??
Old 09-10-2013, 01:11 PM
  #19  
11Black-GS
Racer
 
11Black-GS's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jun 2013
Posts: 317
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

A few things come to mind.

1. You have a new tire that is "out-of-round".
2. There is tire separation from the wheel at that speed.
3. Possibly, there is something inside the new tire that is banging around (such as a piece of valve stem that fell in during the install).
4. The wheels aren't torqued correctly on your vehicle.
Old 09-10-2013, 01:35 PM
  #20  
Z_Monzter
Racer
 
Z_Monzter's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 359
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 11Black-GS
A few things come to mind.

1. You have a new tire that is "out-of-round".
2. There is tire separation from the wheel at that speed.
3. Possibly, there is something inside the new tire that is banging around (such as a piece of valve stem that fell in during the install).
4. The wheels aren't torqued correctly on your vehicle.

Agree


Quick Reply: Car shakes at 180mph+? autobahn issues...



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:50 PM.