C7 or C6 427
09-21-2013, 04:44 PM
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Thanks big Dan. That is the problem with guys like us---or so my wife seems to think----we trade in perfectly good cars that are still under warranty for another ".......very expensive, un-needed toy...." (her words, not mine). On the other hand, she has never said no when I said I was going to buy one-------she just claims she can't drive the stick (she had a stick car long before I even met her four decades ago), which limits me to one beer when we are out. Gotta love her anyway!
Only difference is I found my wife remembered how to drive a stick after a 20 year absence ...... that was 5 Vettes ago and everyone since has been a stick. I only had to ask her NOT to drive the 427 in flip flops...... geez 
She loves driving the Vette but has only taken it out on her own once when I was out of town. I keep telling her to go for it. How lucky am I !!! Wouldn't trade her for anything, even a Callaway or ZR1
09-21-2013, 05:01 PM
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gm has gone to great length allegedly to pinpoint the issue with the valve guides. there is a report elsewhere on this site. that being said, no one really knows for sure. I opted to get a 427 vert because I could, and don't worry about the valve thing, that is what warranty is for. its been reported that most of the ones that suffered losses were either modified or rode hard and put up wet.
to my knowledge, there have been no '12 or '13 cars that have dropped a valve and scorched an engine.
Now, on to the decision. at this point, its end of summer and the C7's are rolling out. I would try ot sit in one before making the call. when I made the call it was last year, and there wasn't a choice other than get one or wait. I really enjoy the 427 vert, but may be also considering adding a c7 coupe to the equation at end of year after the hype subsides a bit. The reality is that you cannot go wrong with either car.
to my knowledge, there have been no '12 or '13 cars that have dropped a valve and scorched an engine.
Now, on to the decision. at this point, its end of summer and the C7's are rolling out. I would try ot sit in one before making the call. when I made the call it was last year, and there wasn't a choice other than get one or wait. I really enjoy the 427 vert, but may be also considering adding a c7 coupe to the equation at end of year after the hype subsides a bit. The reality is that you cannot go wrong with either car.
09-21-2013, 05:26 PM
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09-21-2013, 05:51 PM
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Ask yourself this... If rumors are true, in a year or two when there are NO MORE Corvettes being made with a NA 7 Liter engine and you look around and see MANY C7s, but have never seen another 427, which one do you want to be in?
I have heard of ZERO problems with the LS7 in the 12 and 13 models. And even then I'd be skeptical. It's the internet...
Go with what you want. I did and have ZERO regrets...
And as was said above... I am driving a new roadster with all the grunt I can use... It's a 427 Convertible! I can pull down over 24 mpg if being judicious... It's a 427 Convertible! I didn't buy it for the interior... It's a 427 Convertible! Your arguments are invalid. ;-)
I have heard of ZERO problems with the LS7 in the 12 and 13 models. And even then I'd be skeptical. It's the internet...
Go with what you want. I did and have ZERO regrets...
And as was said above... I am driving a new roadster with all the grunt I can use... It's a 427 Convertible! I can pull down over 24 mpg if being judicious... It's a 427 Convertible! I didn't buy it for the interior... It's a 427 Convertible! Your arguments are invalid. ;-)
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09-21-2013, 06:18 PM
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Well, technically its a 428 convertible, but close enough for my money!! one of the things is that it is easier to mod the C6 if you elet to do so. as far as the dropped valve, even if it want fixed, it isn't that hard to address in the aftermarket and then you have a really stout motor/car. it looks great, sounds great, pulls damn hard, and is also very gentle if you elect to drive it like a candy ***.
The C7 is the new kid on the block, and by all accounts a hit.. Heck, if I had less money to go around, I would still love to have my 1995 vert back. regardless of your choice, its still a vet, and still will be fun to drive. the question is which one do YOU like?
The C7 is the new kid on the block, and by all accounts a hit.. Heck, if I had less money to go around, I would still love to have my 1995 vert back. regardless of your choice, its still a vet, and still will be fun to drive. the question is which one do YOU like?
09-21-2013, 06:27 PM
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M'eh. I'm not big on convertibles. If you were talking Z06 I'd say that's the route. C7 is my vote.
I see lots of people saying go for the 427 concertible because it's a one-year run, as if its an appreciating asset. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is neither collectible nor an investment. By the time you've even reached the stage where it MAY be considered rare, the car is worth 1/4 of the purchase price. IF it then begins to appreciate, you'll be pushing 120 years old by break-even point. Delusional optimism here.
Select whichever car you prefer, drive it as much as you like, then get something else down the road.
I see lots of people saying go for the 427 concertible because it's a one-year run, as if its an appreciating asset. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is neither collectible nor an investment. By the time you've even reached the stage where it MAY be considered rare, the car is worth 1/4 of the purchase price. IF it then begins to appreciate, you'll be pushing 120 years old by break-even point. Delusional optimism here.
Select whichever car you prefer, drive it as much as you like, then get something else down the road.
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09-21-2013, 06:46 PM
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09-21-2013, 07:07 PM
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Professor Death, don't jump, you have too much to live for!!!!!
Yikes, light'en up Francis!
Yikes, light'en up Francis!
M'eh. I'm not big on convertibles. If you were talking Z06 I'd say that's the route. C7 is my vote.
I see lots of people saying go for the 427 concertible because it's a one-year run, as if its an appreciating asset. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is neither collectible nor an investment. By the time you've even reached the stage where it MAY be considered rare, the car is worth 1/4 of the purchase price. IF it then begins to appreciate, you'll be pushing 120 years old by break-even point. Delusional optimism here.
Select whichever car you prefer, drive it as much as you like, then get something else down the road.
I see lots of people saying go for the 427 concertible because it's a one-year run, as if its an appreciating asset. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is neither collectible nor an investment. By the time you've even reached the stage where it MAY be considered rare, the car is worth 1/4 of the purchase price. IF it then begins to appreciate, you'll be pushing 120 years old by break-even point. Delusional optimism here.
Select whichever car you prefer, drive it as much as you like, then get something else down the road.
09-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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lol I'm light. But stating a preference on a relatively large purchase on the basis of possible future collectibility seems silly to me. Enjoy the car however you see fit, but don't hope for a miracle return on investment any time soon.
09-21-2013, 08:07 PM
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I'll agree with you there. No matter what model of Corvette or how collectible it may seem ....they will all rapidly depreciate! Buy what you like... but never buy as an investment.
09-21-2013, 08:18 PM
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I was like you a few months ago. Buy a beautiful 427 or wait for the fantastic new C7? Can't go wrong either way. I traded in my ZO6 for the 427 in April------I love the 427; and I am sure I would love the C7 if I had waited for that option. I didn't worry about the "noise" regarding the ZO6 and 427 engines. I looked into this on the forum and elsewhere years ago (maybe before I bought my ZO6), and it appeared the problems for the NON-MODIFIED cars and those NOT BEATEN TO DEATH were all well within the normal expectancy for all the other corvettes. In short, the vast majority of the problems seemed to come from those with modified cars and those that did a lot of racing. I had ZERO problems with my ZO6, and the same holds true for every ZO6 owner I ran into over the years.
My thinking was----go with the unique, one year only 427---505 hp in a convertible; and if in 2-3 years, after the bugs are worked out of the C7, I can always get a C7 for short dollars with my trade-in (although, I did tell my wife the 427 was going to be my last corvette-----good thing she knows me better that that). In the meantime, I can enjoy the 427. I can also see folks by-passing the 427 and going right for the C7-----both are great cars.
My thinking was----go with the unique, one year only 427---505 hp in a convertible; and if in 2-3 years, after the bugs are worked out of the C7, I can always get a C7 for short dollars with my trade-in (although, I did tell my wife the 427 was going to be my last corvette-----good thing she knows me better that that). In the meantime, I can enjoy the 427. I can also see folks by-passing the 427 and going right for the C7-----both are great cars.
I have the 2012 GS but am thinking hard on the 427. I would have to trade the GS in. I truely was thinking for the price the 427 was a better deal at this time. I will have to move soon . Hard choice to jump again LOL
09-21-2013, 08:23 PM
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I just have to decied if I am gunna pull the trigger ( have extra cash coming in soon LOL)
09-21-2013, 09:09 PM
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the 427 is not rare. it is a vert with a zo6 engine. Not a zo6. It also will have the problems with dropping valves or at least you should be concerned that it may.
If you want old tech get the 427 vert, or, get the first year C7. neither is a great choice.
I have had a couple Z cars and I have been reading about the C7 problems. WAIT and get a 2015 Z or whatever they cal it.OR get a 2013 GS, my current choice, bert bargain
If you want old tech get the 427 vert, or, get the first year C7. neither is a great choice.
I have had a couple Z cars and I have been reading about the C7 problems. WAIT and get a 2015 Z or whatever they cal it.OR get a 2013 GS, my current choice, bert bargain
09-21-2013, 10:14 PM
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Otoh, how many failures do we hear about on the cars that haven't been modded with a tune, headers, after market CAI ............. None that I can think of.