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Old 01-07-2014, 02:29 PM
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Default MGW SHIFTER: I know I'm going to be tarred and feathered for this, but...

... I just swapped out the 1st gen MGW shifter with OEM lower box that came with my new-to-me 2008 Corvette for the STOCK shifter... and I umm... couldn't be happier with my decision.

Don't get me wrong: I liked the short throws and the snick-snick-snick into gears. Additionally, the shifter itself (when removed) is a high-quality work of art. But two things prompted me to do this:

1) The lateral shift effort was just too damned stiff for my tastes. I tried to get used to it, but couldn't. It was sapping my driving enjoyment. So I looked around for the Dorman washer to do the anti-venom fix but gave up when three separate stores didn't have what I was looking for. I decided that a mod to fix another mod was probably not the right mentality for me, anyway.

2) The shifter would rattle something fierce at high revs. At first I thought it was a problem with the lower box but now that I've gone back to stock, the rattle is completely gone.

Sure, the throws are slightly longer and the gates are (quite a bit) more vague, but I'm used to it already and am happy with my decision........ so far. I've heard the SECOND generation MGW shifter with MGW box is much better (maybe someone can speak on this?), but that the efforts are still quite a bit stiffer than stock.

Am I literally the only one who feels this way? I know there's a ton of MGW fans out there, so...... I'll be going now.

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Old 01-07-2014, 02:43 PM
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Glad that you are happy. It really doesn't matter what others think, it is your car and we all have different preferences, and if you like the OE shifter, that is great!

Try changing the gear lube in the trans to Red Line and I bet you will feel a significant difference.

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Old 01-07-2014, 03:04 PM
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If you prefer the stock shifter to the MGW I would say that is what matters most. I myself prefer the MGW shifter, but whatever works for you is cool.
Old 01-07-2014, 03:20 PM
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I understand where you're coming from. When I first put the MGW in, I thought it was way too stiff. Like awkwardly stiff. But after driving it, I don't even notice it anymore and it just feels right. I only remember how stiff it is when someone comments on it (there's a joke in here somewhere) and I go 'Oh yeah!'. Mine doesn't rattle either.

But hey, as long as you're happy, then so be it. It's your car and you should make it drive the way you want.
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I have the new generation MGW shifter and lower shift box in my 2007 Z, I like it much better than stock. I also switched to Redline Oil in the transmission and that made a significant difference over the factory fill. Also if you use the stock shift **** and the first mounting hole on the shaft it comes close to the same shift height of the stock shifter. (NO MORE MUSHY SHIFTS) This is the way a sports car gear shift lever is suppose to feel like.
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I wonder if you just got a bad MGW unit. I absolutely love mine. So solid, smooth and direct. And while you can feel the lateral effort, I've not found it to be a problem, and I'm no arm wrestler. 53 yrs old and just 145 lbs.
Old 01-07-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by vara411
... I just swapped out the 1st gen MGW shifter with OEM lower box that came with my new-to-me 2008 Corvette for the STOCK shifter... and I umm... couldn't be happier with my decision.

Don't get me wrong: I liked the short throws and the snick-snick-snick into gears. Additionally, the shifter itself (when removed) is a high-quality work of art. But two things prompted me to do this:

1) The lateral shift effort was just too damned stiff for my tastes. I tried to get used to it, but couldn't. It was sapping my driving enjoyment. So I looked around for the Dorman washer to do the anti-venom fix but gave up when three separate stores didn't have what I was looking for. I decided that a mod to fix another mod was probably not the right mentality for me, anyway.

2) The shifter would rattle something fierce at high revs. At first I thought it was a problem with the lower box but now that I've gone back to stock, the rattle is completely gone.

Sure, the throws are slightly longer and the gates are (quite a bit) more vague, but I'm used to it already and am happy with my decision........ so far. I've heard the SECOND generation MGW shifter with MGW box is much better (maybe someone can speak on this?), but that the efforts are still quite a bit stiffer than stock.

Am I literally the only one who feels this way? I know there's a ton of MGW fans out there, so...... I'll be going now.
When I first installed the MGW shifter, latest version with the oem lower box last year I was dissapointed in the effort or stiffness of the feel when shifting. I researched the anit-venom mod on this forum. found a part number for the washers, googled it, ordered it, and never looked back. Whatever makes for your driving enjoyment on your car is whats most important for you, but I will say its a shame that you didn't get a chance to try the anit-venom mod, I went with two washers, and it is ridiculously easy to shift now while still having a very crisp and precise feel to it.
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I have the newest MGW shifter with the lower box and used stock shift ****. It was a little stiff when new. It is easier to shift after breaking in. I do admit you do feel the notchiness more over the OEM shifter but this is just have the transmission is. I have no vibration or noise from the shifter. I made the change to the MGW after I started getting sloppy and missed shifts. I do not have that problem. The bottom line is what makes you happy in your own car. Shift On.
Old 01-07-2014, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vara411
... I just swapped out the 1st gen MGW shifter with OEM lower box that came with my new-to-me 2008 Corvette for the STOCK shifter... and I umm... couldn't be happier with my decision.

Don't get me wrong: I liked the short throws and the snick-snick-snick into gears. Additionally, the shifter itself (when removed) is a high-quality work of art. But two things prompted me to do this:

1) The lateral shift effort was just too damned stiff for my tastes. I tried to get used to it, but couldn't. It was sapping my driving enjoyment. So I looked around for the Dorman washer to do the anti-venom fix but gave up when three separate stores didn't have what I was looking for. I decided that a mod to fix another mod was probably not the right mentality for me, anyway.

2) The shifter would rattle something fierce at high revs. At first I thought it was a problem with the lower box but now that I've gone back to stock, the rattle is completely gone.

Sure, the throws are slightly longer and the gates are (quite a bit) more vague, but I'm used to it already and am happy with my decision........ so far. I've heard the SECOND generation MGW shifter with MGW box is much better (maybe someone can speak on this?), but that the efforts are still quite a bit stiffer than stock.

Am I literally the only one who feels this way? I know there's a ton of MGW fans out there, so...... I'll be going now.
Like others have posted .

1. Wear it in , post again in February .It will be smoother .
2. Change trans. fluid …… friken world of difference .
3. If installed straight , you should get reverse and first with less effort .
Old 01-08-2014, 10:19 PM
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Thanks, guys. I know the MGW shifter has legions of loyal fans. I also must put in a good word for their awesome step-by-step instructions online. I could almost do the procedure blind-folded, thanks to them.

I may yet buy the new generation shifter. It really looks like a quality item and I know I'll come to miss those precise shifts. You guys just might talk me into it...
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There maybe some MWG shifter owners with the lower unit in your area that will let you check it out in there vett.
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Originally Posted by timd38
Try changing the gear lube in the trans to Red Line and I bet you will feel a significant difference.
Originally Posted by Z06pete
I also switched to Redline Oil in the transmission and that made a significant difference over the factory fill.
What Redline fluid are you guys using? I've been looking at doing the MGW shifter and have noted that OE shifting is notably worse when the fluid is cold. Thought I'd try a fluid replacement first...
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Having had a stock OEM shifter (bought car new in 2009), then switched to an older version of the MGW shifter, and recently bought the newest MGW shifter and the lower box, these are my impressions.

The OEM one was OK but once I installed the older version of the MGW shifter a few years ago, I could immediately tell that the OEM one had a lot looser, mushy feel compared to the MGW shifter. The MGW did seem a little 'notchy' at first but I soon got used to it and liked the preciseness of the shifts. I will admit that mine had some vibration/rattle at certain RPMs and shifts required a little more effort than the OEM one did.

Recently I installed the newest MGW shifter AND lower box. This combination is a definite improvement on the earlier version (IMO). There is no more vibration at all and the shifts while still feeling precise, aren't as 'notchy', and take less effort. 2-3 & 3-4 are the easiest, they just glide into gear very easily with a slight push with the palm (2-3) or slight pull with the finger tips (3-4).

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Old 01-09-2014, 02:24 AM
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Whats the price for next generation with lower box? And what does the install cost? Been thinkimg about this mod..
Old 01-09-2014, 08:42 AM
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I have to agree with the OP comments.

The stock shifter took some getting used to but now I am very comfortable with it. The short shifters are just too tight for me, laterally speaking.

I suppose that if I used one for a period of time I would adjust.

Here the wisdom prevails, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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I recall when MGW first announced on CF that they were going to build a shifter for the C6. And they have continuously improved the product. But I'm like "boomer" above: I like my shifter. I also have tried some others and for me, they feel too stiff. It could be my stock shifter or box starts to fall apart. Then, I'll have to decide what to do next. I've watched and used the "Ranger" method and it works for me.
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Nothing wrong with feeling more comfortable shifting the car with the OEM shifter installed. Whatever makes the driving experience more enjoyable is what counts.
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Originally Posted by Delta Jim
What Redline fluid are you guys using? I've been looking at doing the MGW shifter and have noted that OE shifting is notably worse when the fluid is cold. Thought I'd try a fluid replacement first...
Redline D4 ATF in my m6
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Hmmm, interesting post. I am considering the same swap out...except mine is a Callaway short throw shifter. I enjoy the shorter shifting pattern but dislike the rattling at higher rpms...


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