Billet Tech alternator Group Buy is here!
09-05-2013, 12:16 PM
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Billet Tech alternator Group Buy is here!
Many of us have grown tired of having under-performing alternators on our Corvettes. In the middle of the summer, pulling up to a stop light, both radiator fans going, A/C on high and you barely have enough voltage to keep your battery charged.
The factory Valeo is rated at 140 amps in most cases, but that's a best-case and not a full-operating temperature scenario. At full temperature and at idle, we're lucky to get even half of that 140 and lucky to get any decent voltage out of it when it's under load. It's simply not an efficient design.
Billet-Tech has engineered alternator that eliminates ALL of these issues. They are designed using the latest and greatest in alternator design, which has greatly increased the low-RPM efficiency and output. They are available for the 97-2012 Corvettes. The LS6 design with standard clearance is the same case all the way up to 2012
Here's what Billet Tech says about their design:
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The 6 Phase Advantage
Billet-Tech alternators employ cutting edge alternator technology not found in other aftermarket alternators. 6 phase hairpin stators make Billet-Tech alternators fundamentally more efficient than other aftermarket alternators. This new technology and increased efficiency equates to incredible output at extremely low engine RPM, less energy wasted in the form of heat, and more horsepower to the wheels. Also, because less heat is being generated, the internal components of Billet-Tech alternators last longer. This is especially beneficial on turbocharged and/or endurance racing vehicles with high engine compartment temperatures. All Billet-Tech alternators feature soldered stator and rectifier connections, with epoxy re-enforced stator connections, reducing the chance of vibration failures.
Billet-Tech units are built exclusively with precision balanced low-mass rotors that allow them to operate safely at shaft speeds of 20,000+ rpm. This high RPM capability, combined with excellent output at idle, gives the user a much broader operating RPM range, and more flexibility in the size of the crankshaft pulley used. A properly selected Billet-Tech alternator can even fix low voltage problems caused by using small diameter, or "under-driven" pulley ratios. The higher pole count in the rotor also results in less electromagnetic interference to cause problems with radios and other electronics.
As a final precaution, Billet-Tech alternators are constructed with twin high efficiency cooling fans, and twin internal rectifier plates. While other high performance alternators have only one rectifier with 6 diodes, Billet-Tech units boast 12 press fit diodes with 300% more surface area to dissipate heat. These considerations to cooling airflow and heat dissipation make Billet-Tech high performance alternators the most durable aftermarket alternators you can buy. If you are experiencing premature alternator failure, intermittent electrical accessory problems, or low voltage at any engine RPM, a Billet-Tech 6 phase alternator is the answer!
"So what is there to gain from using the Billet-Tech alternator over the factory original?"
Better system voltage. "So what does better system voltage gain me?"
Many of the electrical components in our cars will perform better with full voltage.
Our ignition coils, fuel injectors, fuel pumps, cooling fans, electric water pumps, headlights (and the list goes on) will all perform better with better system voltage.
Why go with a Billet-Tech alternator over others? Take a good look at the cases of the competitors and you will notice that none of them have the beefy, stronger ears that Billet-Tech provides on their cases. Instead, you'll find some skinny ears with pins pressed in. These are modified cases, designed for another vehicle, modified to fit our cars and not nearly as strong.
4 finish options offered: Machined, black anodized, polished and chrome.
2 outputs offered: 170amp, 240amp
2 Case options. The LS1 C5 case will provide up to an inch additional clearance for those members who could use the extra clearance due to taller valve covers or a modified coil mounting configuration.
The standard LS6 C5 case will sit down closer to the valve covers, providing the same clearance as the factory Valeo alternator.
Also available is the AVBM, which is allows you to adjust the alternator output voltage.
The last thing I'll share with you is a 14volt option. This involves the use of a 14volt AGM battery Excess Power battery, an external regulator and a custom alternator. The charge voltage for this system is around 17.5. What I can tell you is that there are many GM vehicles running around with this system with 0 issues. Billet Tech has a number of vehicles that they successfully tested before offering this special option. If you think you may benefit from this option, contact me and we can discuss it.
the Corvette will benefit greatly from even the entry level, 150amp units, but if you want a little extra, maybe step to the 170amp.
Billet-Tech has tested and compared their alternators to our factory units and their 170amp alternator will typically produce +1 volt and supply an additional 80 amps at full temperature, at idle speeds. In other words, the 170 will be more than enough to supply the Corvette with good voltage and have enough in reserve to support up to a 1500 watt stereo system.
Be careful when selecting your alternator. It takes more than most are aware of to drive a high output alternator. Unless you have a specific need to choose an alternator beyond 170amp, I would recommend that you choose between the 150 and 170amp models. Their low-RPM performance is significantly better than the higher amp models. It's a "give and take" situation and considering where most of our engines spend their time, the 150 and 170amp models will be the most suitable choice.
Considering what a factory rebuilt alternator costs, this is definitely the better, smarter choice. The pricing for the group buy is lower than can be publicly advertised, so you'll need to contact me for pricing. I am on vacation this week, but will do my best to respond to the thread and pricing inquiries in a timely fashion. The best way to contact me for this group buy is via email. You can email me directly @ blownbluez06@gmail.com
When contacting me, please include the year of your car.
10 alternators is what is needed to achieve this group pricing level. Payment will be collected with your purchase commitment. For this group buy, I'll accept check, money order, PayPal, or credit card with a greater discount offered when paying by check or money order.
The factory Valeo is rated at 140 amps in most cases, but that's a best-case and not a full-operating temperature scenario. At full temperature and at idle, we're lucky to get even half of that 140 and lucky to get any decent voltage out of it when it's under load. It's simply not an efficient design.
Billet-Tech has engineered alternator that eliminates ALL of these issues. They are designed using the latest and greatest in alternator design, which has greatly increased the low-RPM efficiency and output. They are available for the 97-2012 Corvettes. The LS6 design with standard clearance is the same case all the way up to 2012
Here's what Billet Tech says about their design:
"
The 6 Phase Advantage
Billet-Tech alternators employ cutting edge alternator technology not found in other aftermarket alternators. 6 phase hairpin stators make Billet-Tech alternators fundamentally more efficient than other aftermarket alternators. This new technology and increased efficiency equates to incredible output at extremely low engine RPM, less energy wasted in the form of heat, and more horsepower to the wheels. Also, because less heat is being generated, the internal components of Billet-Tech alternators last longer. This is especially beneficial on turbocharged and/or endurance racing vehicles with high engine compartment temperatures. All Billet-Tech alternators feature soldered stator and rectifier connections, with epoxy re-enforced stator connections, reducing the chance of vibration failures.
Billet-Tech units are built exclusively with precision balanced low-mass rotors that allow them to operate safely at shaft speeds of 20,000+ rpm. This high RPM capability, combined with excellent output at idle, gives the user a much broader operating RPM range, and more flexibility in the size of the crankshaft pulley used. A properly selected Billet-Tech alternator can even fix low voltage problems caused by using small diameter, or "under-driven" pulley ratios. The higher pole count in the rotor also results in less electromagnetic interference to cause problems with radios and other electronics.
As a final precaution, Billet-Tech alternators are constructed with twin high efficiency cooling fans, and twin internal rectifier plates. While other high performance alternators have only one rectifier with 6 diodes, Billet-Tech units boast 12 press fit diodes with 300% more surface area to dissipate heat. These considerations to cooling airflow and heat dissipation make Billet-Tech high performance alternators the most durable aftermarket alternators you can buy. If you are experiencing premature alternator failure, intermittent electrical accessory problems, or low voltage at any engine RPM, a Billet-Tech 6 phase alternator is the answer!
"So what is there to gain from using the Billet-Tech alternator over the factory original?"
Better system voltage. "So what does better system voltage gain me?"
Many of the electrical components in our cars will perform better with full voltage.
Our ignition coils, fuel injectors, fuel pumps, cooling fans, electric water pumps, headlights (and the list goes on) will all perform better with better system voltage.
Why go with a Billet-Tech alternator over others? Take a good look at the cases of the competitors and you will notice that none of them have the beefy, stronger ears that Billet-Tech provides on their cases. Instead, you'll find some skinny ears with pins pressed in. These are modified cases, designed for another vehicle, modified to fit our cars and not nearly as strong.
4 finish options offered: Machined, black anodized, polished and chrome.
2 outputs offered: 170amp, 240amp
2 Case options. The LS1 C5 case will provide up to an inch additional clearance for those members who could use the extra clearance due to taller valve covers or a modified coil mounting configuration.
The standard LS6 C5 case will sit down closer to the valve covers, providing the same clearance as the factory Valeo alternator.
Also available is the AVBM, which is allows you to adjust the alternator output voltage.
The last thing I'll share with you is a 14volt option. This involves the use of a 14volt AGM battery Excess Power battery, an external regulator and a custom alternator. The charge voltage for this system is around 17.5. What I can tell you is that there are many GM vehicles running around with this system with 0 issues. Billet Tech has a number of vehicles that they successfully tested before offering this special option. If you think you may benefit from this option, contact me and we can discuss it.
the Corvette will benefit greatly from even the entry level, 150amp units, but if you want a little extra, maybe step to the 170amp.
Billet-Tech has tested and compared their alternators to our factory units and their 170amp alternator will typically produce +1 volt and supply an additional 80 amps at full temperature, at idle speeds. In other words, the 170 will be more than enough to supply the Corvette with good voltage and have enough in reserve to support up to a 1500 watt stereo system.
Be careful when selecting your alternator. It takes more than most are aware of to drive a high output alternator. Unless you have a specific need to choose an alternator beyond 170amp, I would recommend that you choose between the 150 and 170amp models. Their low-RPM performance is significantly better than the higher amp models. It's a "give and take" situation and considering where most of our engines spend their time, the 150 and 170amp models will be the most suitable choice.
Considering what a factory rebuilt alternator costs, this is definitely the better, smarter choice. The pricing for the group buy is lower than can be publicly advertised, so you'll need to contact me for pricing. I am on vacation this week, but will do my best to respond to the thread and pricing inquiries in a timely fashion. The best way to contact me for this group buy is via email. You can email me directly @ blownbluez06@gmail.com
When contacting me, please include the year of your car.
10 alternators is what is needed to achieve this group pricing level. Payment will be collected with your purchase commitment. For this group buy, I'll accept check, money order, PayPal, or credit card with a greater discount offered when paying by check or money order.
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170A, Chrome, Stock C6 Height
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170A, Chrome, Stock C6 Height
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Email sent for pricing.
Why not list prices here?
What happens if 10 units are not sold?
Why not list prices here?
What happens if 10 units are not sold?
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Well crap. Got the alternator, swapped it out in 15 minutes and now I think my voltage gauge is broken. I start the car, it does the swing all the way thing and then sits at 14.5V It doesn't move! AC, hot car, idle, radio, low beam lights, hid fog lights and it just sits there at 14.5v I'm used to the gauge pointer meandering from 14 (never saw 14.5) down to below 13 and then my DIC getting pissy and yelling about the charging system.
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
09-20-2013, 03:30 PM
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Well crap. Got the alternator, swapped it out in 15 minutes and now I think my voltage gauge is broken. I start the car, it does the swing all the way thing and then sits at 14.5V It doesn't move! AC, hot car, idle, radio, low beam lights, hid fog lights and it just sits there at 14.5v I'm used to the gauge pointer meandering from 14 (never saw 14.5) down to below 13 and then my DIC getting pissy and yelling about the charging system.
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
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09-20-2013, 03:36 PM
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Well crap. Got the alternator, swapped it out in 15 minutes and now I think my voltage gauge is broken. I start the car, it does the swing all the way thing and then sits at 14.5V It doesn't move! AC, hot car, idle, radio, low beam lights, hid fog lights and it just sits there at 14.5v I'm used to the gauge pointer meandering from 14 (never saw 14.5) down to below 13 and then my DIC getting pissy and yelling about the charging system.
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
I have the 170A chromed unit and so far it is rock solid on output. I think I'll turn the codes back on in the ECM now that my voltage is where its supposed to be!
Wahoo!
Elmer
09-22-2013, 08:43 AM
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Thanks Mr. Boggs, I'm glad you're happy with it. Now you have 10 years to wear it out before your performance guarantee is up.
I wanted to mention that if you want to hide the wiring and don't mind extending the charge wire, you can clock these where everything comes in from underneath.
I wanted to mention that if you want to hide the wiring and don't mind extending the charge wire, you can clock these where everything comes in from underneath.
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I did it in 20 minutes in my garage.
Release belt using belt tensioner. Turn tensioner pulley clockwise (Righty) and slip belt off smooth pulley that sits next to the tensioner pulley. 16mm socket
Disconnect pronged Generator Electrical plug from alternator
Remove positive battery cable lead from alternator and wrap the end in electrical tape so you don't zap when you let it go. (you could take off the + battery lead and save the tape)
Slip off serpentine belt from alternator
Remove 2 bolts from alternator 15 mm socket
Remove alternator
Install new alternator put top bolt in first (loosely, just enough turns to be secure).
Install bottom bolt and torque to 37 lb ft.
Tighten top bolt to 37 lb ft.
Install serpentine belt on to alternator.
Connect Generator Electrical cable plug
Connect Battery feed cable and tighten nut to 10 lb ft.
Make sure your belt is squarely located in the center of all pulleys before you apply the belt tension back on the belt.
Slip serpentine belt back on smooth pulley and release tensioner to tighten belt.
Piece of cake, nothing to it. Metric socket set and you're good to go!
Elmer
Release belt using belt tensioner. Turn tensioner pulley clockwise (Righty) and slip belt off smooth pulley that sits next to the tensioner pulley. 16mm socket
Disconnect pronged Generator Electrical plug from alternator
Remove positive battery cable lead from alternator and wrap the end in electrical tape so you don't zap when you let it go. (you could take off the + battery lead and save the tape)
Slip off serpentine belt from alternator
Remove 2 bolts from alternator 15 mm socket
Remove alternator
Install new alternator put top bolt in first (loosely, just enough turns to be secure).
Install bottom bolt and torque to 37 lb ft.
Tighten top bolt to 37 lb ft.
Install serpentine belt on to alternator.
Connect Generator Electrical cable plug
Connect Battery feed cable and tighten nut to 10 lb ft.
Make sure your belt is squarely located in the center of all pulleys before you apply the belt tension back on the belt.
Slip serpentine belt back on smooth pulley and release tensioner to tighten belt.
Piece of cake, nothing to it. Metric socket set and you're good to go!
Elmer
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