Trade-in value: why do they range so much and which one is most accurate?
#1
Trade-in value: why do they range so much and which one is most accurate?
I'm looking to trade in my 2005 Corvette coupe with 23,200 miles. I'm getting all different kinds of numbers from different sites:
Kelly Blue Book:
Fair: $24,328
Good: $25,996
Very Good: $26,652
Nada:
Rough: $23,762
Average: $25,712
Clean: $27,337
Black Book:
Rough: $11,730
Average: $18,210
Clean: $21,910
Edmunds:
Rough: $13,881
Average: $15,869
Clean: $19,082
Outstanding: $20,459
Autotrader:
Instant trade-in offer: $21,929
I'm just trying to find the most accurate numbers and which book value/market site dealers are using these days. And yes I know I can get more selling it privately. Just wondering about these trade values, especially the black book ones which seem ridiculous.
Kelly Blue Book:
Fair: $24,328
Good: $25,996
Very Good: $26,652
Nada:
Rough: $23,762
Average: $25,712
Clean: $27,337
Black Book:
Rough: $11,730
Average: $18,210
Clean: $21,910
Edmunds:
Rough: $13,881
Average: $15,869
Clean: $19,082
Outstanding: $20,459
Autotrader:
Instant trade-in offer: $21,929
I'm just trying to find the most accurate numbers and which book value/market site dealers are using these days. And yes I know I can get more selling it privately. Just wondering about these trade values, especially the black book ones which seem ridiculous.
Last edited by MikeMaj82; 08-27-2014 at 11:20 PM.
#2
Melting Slicks
Trade in values
Hi
They are all meaningless, because it depends on the following;
Where you live
Time of year
Color
Condition
Miles
Options
Mods
And all of the above is just the start.
Example if you live in the NE or SE or East coast or west coast. Big city or small town.
Too much really goes into it to come up with a blanket price. Nobody here looking to buy your car is going to tell you that you are too cheap. They will tell you that you are expensive in one way or another.
Everything is condition and low miles if it is driven more then 5000 miles a year it is a daily driver. Remember tires (runflats) cost between $1200 to $2000 mounted.
It goes on and on.
Check what your local dealers offer and figure they will bend in price a little and check the condition.
The price is what you think is fair.
Good Luck
Alan
They are all meaningless, because it depends on the following;
Where you live
Time of year
Color
Condition
Miles
Options
Mods
And all of the above is just the start.
Example if you live in the NE or SE or East coast or west coast. Big city or small town.
Too much really goes into it to come up with a blanket price. Nobody here looking to buy your car is going to tell you that you are too cheap. They will tell you that you are expensive in one way or another.
Everything is condition and low miles if it is driven more then 5000 miles a year it is a daily driver. Remember tires (runflats) cost between $1200 to $2000 mounted.
It goes on and on.
Check what your local dealers offer and figure they will bend in price a little and check the condition.
The price is what you think is fair.
Good Luck
Alan
#3
All of those things you listed are what I had to enter in order to see the trade-in price. Literally, all of them. The prices I listed are based on a 2005 Black auto Corvette with 23,200 miles in NJ in the condition listed with a glass roof, navigation, 19" polished wheels, and magnetic ride control.
#4
Team Owner
Take your car to a dealer and have them appraise it or if you know someone who has access to auction reports,there are your real numbers.
not gonna happen.
definitely not gonna happen.
Average and clean on these two seem more realistic for an 05.However, in the real world these guides ain't writing the checks.Dealers and wholesalers are.
Kelly Blue Book:
Fair: $24,328
Good: $25,996
Very Good: $26,652
Fair: $24,328
Good: $25,996
Very Good: $26,652
Nada:
Rough: $23,762
Average: $25,712
Clean: $27,337
Rough: $23,762
Average: $25,712
Clean: $27,337
Average and clean on these two seem more realistic for an 05.However, in the real world these guides ain't writing the checks.Dealers and wholesalers are.
Black Book:
Rough: $11,730
Average: $18,210
Clean: $21,910
Edmunds:
Rough: $13,881
Average: $15,869
Clean: $19,082
Outstanding: $20,459
Rough: $11,730
Average: $18,210
Clean: $21,910
Edmunds:
Rough: $13,881
Average: $15,869
Clean: $19,082
Outstanding: $20,459
#5
Take your car to a dealer and have them appraise it or if you know someone who has access to auction reports,there are your real numbers.
not gonna happen.
definitely not gonna happen.
Average and clean on these two seem more realistic for an 05.However, in the real world these guides ain't writing the checks.Dealers and wholesalers are.
not gonna happen.
definitely not gonna happen.
Average and clean on these two seem more realistic for an 05.However, in the real world these guides ain't writing the checks.Dealers and wholesalers are.
#6
Drifting
Assume worse case scenario for trade-in. Reconsider private sell if you are concerned about a $5,000 variance. At 23,200 miles you have a great bargaining chip. If you have taken good care of your car, don't give it away.
#7
Unless the dealer knows they can turn the car quickly, I can not see one paying over current auction prices, regardless of trim. If you are a better sales man than the dealer, you may be able to get close to auction price.
Current prices over the last 30 days are:
Above: $25,900 @ 32,000 mi
Average: $20,600 @ 64,000 mi
Below: $15,301 @ 96,000 mi
Total sold: 26
Prices will generally trend downward for the next 4-6 months.
Current prices over the last 30 days are:
Above: $25,900 @ 32,000 mi
Average: $20,600 @ 64,000 mi
Below: $15,301 @ 96,000 mi
Total sold: 26
Prices will generally trend downward for the next 4-6 months.
#8
Drifting
Just contacted a forum dealer and requested a trade in value of my '13 1LT A6 base coupe with 1200 miles against a"14 Manual roadster. They quoted my cars value at $27K cause they would have to sit on it til next spring. Is this BS or what??
#9
Team Owner
I can't see how they can lowball like that offering in the teens when there are a lot of used '05s on dealer lots right now with similar options and mileage priced at $27K and up. Check usedcars.com. That seems a little ridiculous. Would you trade your car in for $15K - $18K knowing the dealer will re-sell it for over $27K? I couldn't even get that much for it privately.
Last edited by not08crmanymore; 08-28-2014 at 11:20 AM.
#10
I recently sold a truck. Went to KBB and NADA to check the value. It seemed kind of low, so I searched Autotrader to see what they were actually selling for. That info netted me $4000 more than what "the book" value suggested. In my opinion, you are going to leave substantial money on the table for the dealer to make instead of you. Remember, the dealer is going to re-sell the vehicle, and make a profit on it.
#11
I recently sold a truck. Went to KBB and NADA to check the value. It seemed kind of low, so I searched Autotrader to see what they were actually selling for. That info netted me $4000 more than what "the book" value suggested. In my opinion, you are going to leave substantial money on the table for the dealer to make instead of you. Remember, the dealer is going to re-sell the vehicle, and make a profit on it.
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I recently sold a truck. Went to KBB and NADA to check the value. It seemed kind of low, so I searched Autotrader to see what they were actually selling for. That info netted me $4000 more than what "the book" value suggested. In my opinion, you are going to leave substantial money on the table for the dealer to make instead of you. Remember, the dealer is going to re-sell the vehicle, and make a profit on it.
#14
Melting Slicks
Bring your vette to Conte's in Vineland and sell it as a consignment car.
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#16
Melting Slicks
Auto Auctions Dealer Only
Yes you can look at Manheim's auction prices but it still means nothing because they run auctions all over the country and different local's have different prices for the same car.
Also if you are looking for a primo vette you do not want an auction vette for sure. Most auction vettes have major issues and that is why they are there.
Do not listen to anybody if you want to set a price stick to it but keep in mind that at the end of a yearly run they bring in vettes that will sell for $39,000 or so LT1 mostly. Sometimes even less equiped vettes.
Again do not listen to the so called experts.
Good Luck
Also if you are looking for a primo vette you do not want an auction vette for sure. Most auction vettes have major issues and that is why they are there.
Do not listen to anybody if you want to set a price stick to it but keep in mind that at the end of a yearly run they bring in vettes that will sell for $39,000 or so LT1 mostly. Sometimes even less equiped vettes.
Again do not listen to the so called experts.
Good Luck
Last edited by Kingman99; 09-02-2014 at 11:19 PM.
#17
Drifting
really good condition they are bring 25-26 at manheim dealer auction with those miles. Put it on autotrader, I had dealers offer those prices. CarMax offered 19 for mine, dealers were offering 21. I sold to a used car lot for 25.This was for a 04 z06 16 months ago. Manheim said 25 for mine and that's what I got.
#20
Racer
I usually average the numbers from a few different sources and go with that. Dealerships will find the LOWEST number that they can find and go with that. Most often, they will look at what they are going for at auction and that will be the number. Unfortunately most of us don't have access to those numbers so we don't know if they are being truthful or not!
There are so many factors to include, each different place puts a different "value" on the information gathered.
There are so many factors to include, each different place puts a different "value" on the information gathered.
Last edited by purvistechie; 08-28-2014 at 02:12 PM.