* * * * DANGER Fuel Leaks - SAFETY RECALL * * * *
#41
Dealer said something about having to replace a seal that goes between the 2 tanks, I have the repair ticket, didn't seem to phase them to do it.
Miguel
#43
Sorry, that was my fault, I probably should have titled it better.
NHTSA is currently looking into this issue, but at this point in time, there is no official recall.
It appears that the plastic GM uses on the fuel pumps (and possibly other fuel parts as well) turns brittle over time, and then cracks at the top of the pump and leaks. The problem has absolutely nothing to do with how much you filled the tank.
If you have previously paid to have your car fixed for a gas leak at the tanks, you should save your repair bill receipts, because in the event there is a recall for this, you could get reimbursed.
This is also why if you have previously had this problem and gotten it fixed, you should go to the NHTSA site and fill out the complaint form, because this will give them more evidence they need to get GM to do a recall.
NHTSA is currently looking into this issue, but at this point in time, there is no official recall.
It appears that the plastic GM uses on the fuel pumps (and possibly other fuel parts as well) turns brittle over time, and then cracks at the top of the pump and leaks. The problem has absolutely nothing to do with how much you filled the tank.
If you have previously paid to have your car fixed for a gas leak at the tanks, you should save your repair bill receipts, because in the event there is a recall for this, you could get reimbursed.
This is also why if you have previously had this problem and gotten it fixed, you should go to the NHTSA site and fill out the complaint form, because this will give them more evidence they need to get GM to do a recall.
Hopefully GM does right and issues a recall.
#45
Racer
Wow, I had this exact issue. It was anytime the tank was around half full or more. The dealer tried to claim I ran over something and cracked the tank. I decided to remove it myself and found it was the pump. It will take at least three cars catching fire before anything happens. You may as well DIY.
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hr619 (09-27-2020)
#46
" It will take at least three cars catching fire before anything happens"
What a horrible thought! I'd hate to see anyone get hurt over this!? Let's hope that the "new" GM will act on this quickly?
Mike
What a horrible thought! I'd hate to see anyone get hurt over this!? Let's hope that the "new" GM will act on this quickly?
Mike
#47
The only way this will get addressed is if folks will fill out the NHTSA form to file a complaint, period.
#48
Instructor
2008 in New Zealand
After reading all these posts I'm getting quite concerned. I haven't noticed any petrol smell, though I don't think I have ever filled it completely up. Will be in February when we go on holiday to our Corvette convention. If there is a recall on this, I wonder if I could get them to send me the parts so I can do it myself?
#50
The other issue no one has talked about is re-occurrence.
Even after GM does the repair and replaces the fuel pump, as far as I know, they are replacing it with the exact same pump with the same part number. So this means a few years down the road, you could have to repeat this whole nightmare all over again.
Here is a photo showing how the gas runs down the back side of the fuel tank, right next to the exhaust. You can see the stain on the tank.
Here is a photo of the cracks in the fuel pump that are causing the leak.
Even after GM does the repair and replaces the fuel pump, as far as I know, they are replacing it with the exact same pump with the same part number. So this means a few years down the road, you could have to repeat this whole nightmare all over again.
Here is a photo showing how the gas runs down the back side of the fuel tank, right next to the exhaust. You can see the stain on the tank.
Here is a photo of the cracks in the fuel pump that are causing the leak.
Last edited by RainMan12; 12-15-2014 at 11:28 AM.
#51
Advanced
RainMan, I really hope you're right about that. My car is at the shop right now and I gave them the go ahead to drop the tanks and find out exactly where it's coming from. If it's what we all think, warranty will cover it. If not, I'm stuck with the bill
#52
Advanced
Well, looks like according to the dealership I have a crack in my tank. So I told them just to put it back together since my extended warranty didn't want to cover it. I hope it burns on the side of the road
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BrknWndC6 (12-28-2019)
#53
Instructor
My 2009 had the same issue.
What bothered me about this problem was that it contradicted itself.
if it was caused by a leak in the tank, it should have generated an evap dtc;
if it was a cracked fitting on the fuel sending unit, you should smell fumes all the time, regardless of how much fuel was in the tanks.
I dropped my tank and saw that there was fuel puddling on the top of the tank, but could not determine exactly what the source was. I did not see any cracks on the fuel fitting, nor did I see any obvious leaks.
I could however tell from the traces, that it was not coming from the crossover pipe. The only suspicious thing I saw, was that the hose that seems to be "shrunk" onto the sending unit, was free to spin on the nipple that it was attached to; I could not pull it off, but it seemed to me that it should have a tighter fit.
So... I replaced it with a new Delphi pump, also installed the new o-ring that seals the unit to the tank. It has been about two weeks since, and I have filled up twice and have had no more issues. I still do not understand why the fuel smell was only present when fuel level was greater than 1/3 -1/2 tank but time is diminishing my curiosity.
Btw; the car is a manual trans, I pulled the tank down on a saturday, ordered a pump in the afternoon. Picked the new pump up on sunday; cleaned tank, and installed pump and had car running before the 3:00 football game. It is not "that" difficult a job (at least with a man trans).
What bothered me about this problem was that it contradicted itself.
if it was caused by a leak in the tank, it should have generated an evap dtc;
if it was a cracked fitting on the fuel sending unit, you should smell fumes all the time, regardless of how much fuel was in the tanks.
I dropped my tank and saw that there was fuel puddling on the top of the tank, but could not determine exactly what the source was. I did not see any cracks on the fuel fitting, nor did I see any obvious leaks.
I could however tell from the traces, that it was not coming from the crossover pipe. The only suspicious thing I saw, was that the hose that seems to be "shrunk" onto the sending unit, was free to spin on the nipple that it was attached to; I could not pull it off, but it seemed to me that it should have a tighter fit.
So... I replaced it with a new Delphi pump, also installed the new o-ring that seals the unit to the tank. It has been about two weeks since, and I have filled up twice and have had no more issues. I still do not understand why the fuel smell was only present when fuel level was greater than 1/3 -1/2 tank but time is diminishing my curiosity.
Btw; the car is a manual trans, I pulled the tank down on a saturday, ordered a pump in the afternoon. Picked the new pump up on sunday; cleaned tank, and installed pump and had car running before the 3:00 football game. It is not "that" difficult a job (at least with a man trans).
#54
Advanced
My 2009 had the same issue.
What bothered me about this problem was that it contradicted itself.
if it was caused by a leak in the tank, it should have generated an evap dtc;
if it was a cracked fitting on the fuel sending unit, you should smell fumes all the time, regardless of how much fuel was in the tanks.
I dropped my tank and saw that there was fuel puddling on the top of the tank, but could not determine exactly what the source was. I did not see any cracks on the fuel fitting, nor did I see any obvious leaks.
I could however tell from the traces, that it was not coming from the crossover pipe. The only suspicious thing I saw, was that the hose that seems to be "shrunk" onto the sending unit, was free to spin on the nipple that it was attached to; I could not pull it off, but it seemed to me that it should have a tighter fit.
So... I replaced it with a new Delphi pump, also installed the new o-ring that seals the unit to the tank. It has been about two weeks since, and I have filled up twice and have had no more issues. I still do not understand why the fuel smell was only present when fuel level was greater than 1/3 -1/2 tank but time is diminishing my curiosity.
Btw; the car is a manual trans, I pulled the tank down on a saturday, ordered a pump in the afternoon. Picked the new pump up on sunday; cleaned tank, and installed pump and had car running before the 3:00 football game. It is not "that" difficult a job (at least with a man trans).
What bothered me about this problem was that it contradicted itself.
if it was caused by a leak in the tank, it should have generated an evap dtc;
if it was a cracked fitting on the fuel sending unit, you should smell fumes all the time, regardless of how much fuel was in the tanks.
I dropped my tank and saw that there was fuel puddling on the top of the tank, but could not determine exactly what the source was. I did not see any cracks on the fuel fitting, nor did I see any obvious leaks.
I could however tell from the traces, that it was not coming from the crossover pipe. The only suspicious thing I saw, was that the hose that seems to be "shrunk" onto the sending unit, was free to spin on the nipple that it was attached to; I could not pull it off, but it seemed to me that it should have a tighter fit.
So... I replaced it with a new Delphi pump, also installed the new o-ring that seals the unit to the tank. It has been about two weeks since, and I have filled up twice and have had no more issues. I still do not understand why the fuel smell was only present when fuel level was greater than 1/3 -1/2 tank but time is diminishing my curiosity.
Btw; the car is a manual trans, I pulled the tank down on a saturday, ordered a pump in the afternoon. Picked the new pump up on sunday; cleaned tank, and installed pump and had car running before the 3:00 football game. It is not "that" difficult a job (at least with a man trans).
You should work at a dealership then. They told me that was a 10hr job. New tank and labor was going to be $1700+
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BrknWndC6 (12-28-2019)
#55
I can park my 08 after driving even a short while with a tank lower than 1/2 full and I get the fuel smell. It is strong enough to have to roll the windows down to air it out while I'm driving. I will have to see if I can get the tank checked, because I've been worried.
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BrknWndC6 (12-28-2019)
#56
Melting Slicks
2011 auto grand sport...
This thread peek my curiosity sense I had a run in with a very strong gas smell inside the car about 3 days after I picked up a new to me 17.5 k mile 2011 auto grand sport, funny thing is after a couple of days smell completely disappeared.
Smell was strong enough I told my son about it, like fresh abundant gas.
Smell was strong enough I told my son about it, like fresh abundant gas.
#58
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I have a 2007 Convertable and have never has a smell of gas in the car. I have always told the people at the gas pump when it clicks, no more gas. I live in NJ where U can not pump your own. So far so good.
#59
The number of vehicles affected with this problem is growing DAILY. It will be interesting to see how the "new GM" handles this, or if they will wait until they are FORCED by NHTSA to do a recall.
#60
samething
I purchased my 07 used 2 months ago when after the 1st fill-up suddenly had the issue, (previous owner likely did too but they were going to charge him I got an extended warranty)... anyway, took it to the dealer and 2 days later they had it fixed. They didn't hesitate one bit to take care of it and in fact the guy in front of me had the exact same issue.
Dealer said something about having to replace a seal that goes between the 2 tanks, I have the repair ticket, didn't seem to phase them to do it.
Miguel
Dealer said something about having to replace a seal that goes between the 2 tanks, I have the repair ticket, didn't seem to phase them to do it.
Miguel