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Old 12-15-2014, 09:43 AM
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For those of you who have been wanting a white DRL while still retaining the Amber turn signal function, you know that because of the design of the corvette's turn signal circuit, both the DRL and turn signal are Amber and any change required significant re-wiring....

....until now

Radioflyer Innovations is proud to introduce the first Direct plug-and-play adapter harness that converts the DRL function to white using traditional switchback bulbs.

Video showing function with our Cree switchback LED Bulb.


How does it work? Our harness uses a solid-state time delay-off circuit to power the Amber portion of the switchback bulb that resets every time the power is shut off. The DRL power is run though the harness to the white portion of the switchback bulb. A set of diodes prevent backfeed to each circuit. The result:

Turn signal/Hazard: flashing amber/off/amber/off
DRL and Parking light: White

The harness for the C5 has an integrated resistor hooked to the time delay circuit so the resistor does NOT get hot with the DRL function.

Harness is offered for the C5 in 2 versions:
A) Plug and play version, simply remove switchback bulb from the socket, connect install the harness and install the bulb in the new socket.
B) Splice in version with no connectors. Installation involves cutting harness to turn signal socket and splicing the harness in place. (slightly cleaner finished look and less expensive)

Harnesses are available for Pre-order here.
http://shop.radioflyerinnovations.co...arness-089.htm

Cree Switchback bulbs available here:
http://www.shop.radioflyerinnovation...b-pair-087.htm

First harnesses will ship Late December.

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Clever, well done.

Just want to clear up some confusion I have.

The harness in your other post (looks like the same pic on your site) is just for switching the load resistor in/out of the turn signal circuit.

This harness described here will do the same and re-direct the DRL function (turn signal constant on) to the white side of the switchback LED. Correct?

Can't tell from the pic, how is the 'solid state time delay circuit' packaged and how long is the harness between this and the resistor. Trying to get an idea of where to mount the 2 elements.

Any overheating issues with the white Cree LED's?

Have you done any long term testing? I realize it's all solid state (no moving parts ) but wondering about warranty, if any.

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Originally Posted by **** Jockey
Clever, well done.

Just want to clear up some confusion I have.

The harness in your other post (looks like the same pic on your site) is just for switching the load resistor in/out of the turn signal circuit.

Correct

This harness described here will do the same and re-direct the DRL function (turn signal constant on) to the white side of the switchback LED. Correct?

Correct

Can't tell from the pic, how is the 'solid state time delay circuit' packaged and how long is the harness between this and the resistor. Trying to get an idea of where to mount the 2 elements.

The time delay circuit is small enough to be concealed inside the wire loom. The board is coated with an acrylic conformal coating to protect the circuit from moisture. The Leads on the C6 version of each harness are 16" long allowing the resistor to be mounted in the cove below the headlight pictured here:





The resistor can be mounted directly to the frame rail.



Any overheating issues with the white Cree LED's?

This is the same style of light as used in our C6 reverse lights and C5 LED high beam bulbs. The only difference is these have 2 colors. Thus far we have noticed ZERO failures of the previously mentioned styles with several hundred in use. I expect the switchback variant of the Cree bulb to have the same reliability.

Have you done any long term testing? I realize it's all solid state (no moving parts ) but wondering about warranty, if any.

Two members of my corvette club have volunteered their cars for the first production run of these harnesses. The bulbs themselves tested just fine in an on-car demo. The harnesses have so far only been bench tested, but no problems were found. All our products are covered by a 1 year warranty against defects. If one of our products has an issue after the warranty period, we can still repair/replace damaged components at a significantly lower cost than purchasing new.
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Are the new Gen 5 LED switchbacks subject to hyperflash without using the harness or the optional power resistors shown on the order page?

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Originally Posted by 07MontRedcp
Are the new Gen 5 LED switchbacks subject to hyperflash without using the harness or the optional power resistors shown on the order page?

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All led bulbs will hyperflash without a load resistor. The c6 model White DRL harness has integrated load resistor to prevent hyperflash.
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Originally Posted by theradioflyer
All led bulbs will hyperflash without a load resistor. The c6 model White DRL harness has integrated load resistor to prevent hyperflash.
Okay, so do you have install instructions for the option power resistors that are much cheaper than the White DRL harness?

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Originally Posted by 07MontRedcp
Okay, so do you have install instructions for the option power resistors that are much cheaper than the White DRL harness?

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just installing the load resistors is easy, but they will heat up with the DRLs.

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Thanks for the info.

Looks like a very viable product that should make it much easier to integrate LED's into the turn signal/DRL circuit.

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OK, this looks cool. What will I need to do to get this installed if I already have switchbacks with load resistor installed? I really want white drl.
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OK, this looks cool. What will I need to do to get this installed if I already have switchbacks with load resistor installed? I really want white drl.
You can order either of the the C5 versions as they do not come with resistors.
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Just another thought on this.

This may have already occurred to you, but there are a couple more applications/marketing opportunities for this technology.

Owners that have installed Euro-style side-marker repeater lights and/or mirrors with turn signal arrows in them can use your harness to 'separate' the turn signal function from the DRL's for these extra lights. After all, who wants arrows in the mirrors that are on all the time when in DRL mode.

And a variation of the harness can be used in the rear of the car to 'split' the turn signals out from the brake lights for owners that have or want to install the Euro tail lights with the separate amber turn signals sections.

Actually you could come up with a version of the "Eagle Eye" style LED tail lights with amber LED's for the turn signals. IMO that would look pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by **** Jockey
Just another thought on this.

This may have already occurred to you, but there are a couple more applications/marketing opportunities for this technology.

Owners that have installed Euro-style side-marker repeater lights and/or mirrors with turn signal arrows in them can use your harness to 'separate' the turn signal function from the DRL's for these extra lights. After all, who wants arrows in the mirrors that are on all the time when in DRL mode.

And a variation of the harness can be used in the rear of the car to 'split' the turn signals out from the brake lights for owners that have or want to install the Euro tail lights with the separate amber turn signals sections.

Actually you could come up with a version of the "Eagle Eye" style LED tail lights with amber LED's for the turn signals. IMO that would look pretty cool.

I'm sure the euro market will be all over this. It's a very unique look.

GM makes a harness that splits the turn signal from the tail light. It's an overall better solution since it comes with all the plugs and wires to be direct match to the factory...even though it requires re-programming the computer with Tech II or similar.


We already offer a Euro-complaint version of the Eagle eye tail lights using our "centerpoint" modification.

http://shop.radioflyerinnovations.co...cation-031.htm

A customer made this video for us of them showing all available functions.

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