Upgrading Stock Air Filter Worth it??
05-25-2015, 06:31 PM
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Upgrading Stock Air Filter Worth it??
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May have been covered already but if I choose to upgrade ONLY THE STOCK
FILTER ELEMENT is it worth it and if so what brand is preferred??
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KOE
May have been covered already but if I choose to upgrade ONLY THE STOCK
FILTER ELEMENT is it worth it and if so what brand is preferred??
Thx
KOE
05-25-2015, 06:34 PM
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05-25-2015, 10:28 PM
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As for CAI systems, this can be done on the stock OEM system as well. The shroud can be prop's open so the intake filter is getting outside cold air.
So on that note, if you don't know how old, or dirty your stock filter is, then replace it. As for filters, I tend to favor the Napa gold filters (wixs filters). They are gold in color, verses the OEM dark elements, and I can tell better when the filter is becoming dirty and needs to be replaced.
Now if you just want to pimptastic the car, then it's your money and you can spend it any way you want to bling the car.
05-25-2015, 10:54 PM
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Upgrading Stock Air Filter Worth it??
Absolutely not. Keep it stock and do your engine a favor with clean air. There is no other filter out there that cleans with as low a pressure drop as the stock unit. And it's good for 50,000 miles.
Absolutely not. Keep it stock and do your engine a favor with clean air. There is no other filter out there that cleans with as low a pressure drop as the stock unit. And it's good for 50,000 miles.
05-26-2015, 12:02 AM
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no.Save your money.The OEM filters are good enough for 436,505 and 638 HP depending on your car.They are warrantied,they filter correctly and allow sufficient air to get thru as deemed necessary by GM to achieve all that power that most of us don't use all of anyway.
05-26-2015, 01:49 AM
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Upgrade? Not currently possible.
There is no other filter for a LS3 that filters better than the stock one made by Donaldson. Since the job of a filter is to provide clean air, any decrease in that ability is a downgrade.
You can get one that allows more air in at WOT, but it also lets in more dirt. If you really want maximum airflow, simply remove the filter altogether.
There is no other filter for a LS3 that filters better than the stock one made by Donaldson. Since the job of a filter is to provide clean air, any decrease in that ability is a downgrade.
You can get one that allows more air in at WOT, but it also lets in more dirt. If you really want maximum airflow, simply remove the filter altogether.
05-26-2015, 07:38 AM
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when you guys talk about allowing dirt, can this cause a problem??
Why do you think cars have air filters? It's not to sell air filters.
Why do you think cars have air filters? It's not to sell air filters.
05-26-2015, 07:53 AM
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Again, you are riding a fine line with a oiled air filter.
Not enough lube on a oil lubed filter, and you are allowing too much dust debris to pass through the filter. (same debris pass through problems with some of the other non OEM filters as well)
To much oil on the filter (or debries built up on it) and you are now choking the filter, or worse, too much oil transferred to the MAFs sensor to clog it from working correctly instead.
So again, the stock OEM filter system flows more air that the stock engine needs!!!!!!
As for the LS-2, it not the air filter that is the problem, but the way that the intake manifold was created instead (which creates greater air resistances through the intake manifold than the LS-3 intake manifold).
Hence the stock air filter(2 on the 05) system still out flows the engine, even with the LS-2 intake manifold ported to smooth out the air flow for about a 10HP increase.
Not enough lube on a oil lubed filter, and you are allowing too much dust debris to pass through the filter. (same debris pass through problems with some of the other non OEM filters as well)
To much oil on the filter (or debries built up on it) and you are now choking the filter, or worse, too much oil transferred to the MAFs sensor to clog it from working correctly instead.
So again, the stock OEM filter system flows more air that the stock engine needs!!!!!!
As for the LS-2, it not the air filter that is the problem, but the way that the intake manifold was created instead (which creates greater air resistances through the intake manifold than the LS-3 intake manifold).
Hence the stock air filter(2 on the 05) system still out flows the engine, even with the LS-2 intake manifold ported to smooth out the air flow for about a 10HP increase.
05-26-2015, 07:57 AM
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I don't know about newer boats, but I have one built in 1988. It has an airbox but no filter element, nor any available.
It took me a while to figure out why, but there is no road debris on the water.
05-26-2015, 08:22 AM
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say what?? ive had two corvettes and other performance cars supercharged and NA,,,always have changed to High Flow air filter,,,oiled and not oiled...never have had a single problem with any of them......maintenance is the key...keep it clean and it will out perform the stocker.....if the HF filters are so bad for our cars why do you think ALL performance mods are based on getting more air into intake....i dont get you guys...
05-26-2015, 09:01 AM
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say what?? ive had two corvettes and other performance cars supercharged and NA,,,always have changed to High Flow air filter,,,oiled and not oiled...never have had a single problem with any of them......maintenance is the key...keep it clean and it will out perform the stocker.....if the HF filters are so bad for our cars why do you think ALL performance mods are based on getting more air into intake....i dont get you guys...
But on a stock motor in the Vet, the stock air filter system is way out flowing what the motor is demanding. So higher air flow numbers mean nothing, when the motor is already getting all the air it needed already.
To take this one step farther, on CAI systems, it not a gain in over all HP that is being stated over what the car is already making, but the fact that when a motor is pulling in very hot air, the motor will retard timing to lose HP instead.
So the magic number claims of CAI system, is a stock system pulling in the worst of hot air to really retard timing to 12 degrees to lose HP, verse their system pulling in cold air instead and no timing pulled (and something that is not going to show up on a dyno, since the engine bay is being forced cold air via fans so the motor does not over heat standing still).
05-26-2015, 09:18 AM
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NO, the stock air filter already outflows the engine in stock form needs. To add, some of the after market filters are worse than the OEM filters. The either do not filter the air correctly in the first place and allow a lot of debries into the engine, or worse, they are the oil type that you can oil wrong, and end up oiling up the MAF sensor instead.
As for CAI systems, this can be done on the stock OEM system as well. The shroud can be prop's open so the intake filter is getting outside cold air.
So on that note, if you don't know how old, or dirty your stock filter is, then replace it. As for filters, I tend to favor the Napa gold filters (wixs filters). They are gold in color, verses the OEM dark elements, and I can tell better when the filter is becoming dirty and needs to be replaced.
Now if you just want to pimptastic the car, then it's your money and you can spend it any way you want to bling the car.
As for CAI systems, this can be done on the stock OEM system as well. The shroud can be prop's open so the intake filter is getting outside cold air.
So on that note, if you don't know how old, or dirty your stock filter is, then replace it. As for filters, I tend to favor the Napa gold filters (wixs filters). They are gold in color, verses the OEM dark elements, and I can tell better when the filter is becoming dirty and needs to be replaced.
Now if you just want to pimptastic the car, then it's your money and you can spend it any way you want to bling the car.
05-26-2015, 12:46 PM
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And ends up in the oil and circulates until filtered by the oil filter. Cars had air filters before they had oil filters. The 55 Chevy had an oil filter as an option.