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Old 07-01-2016, 09:45 PM
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Default Two small cracks in my headlight

God damn it!!!!
The more i try to keep her flawless the more small things i find. Im dont remember seeing this a couple of days ago. Both are small but they will annoy me. The damn headlight costs a lot as well.
Old 07-02-2016, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SammyP
God damn it!!!!
The more i try to keep her flawless the more small things i find. Im dont remember seeing this a couple of days ago. Both are small but they will annoy me. The damn headlight costs a lot as well.
Yep ,I know exactly how you feel

I just noticed my left headlight is " FLAKING" , looks like a bit of the coating on the lens is coming off , car is garaged and handled with kid gloves ......

been watching it to see if it get worse

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You don't have to buy new headlights, just the lenses. They are difficult to take apart as I just did mine. I changed the color underneath at the same time. They can be removed from the car without removing the bumper. In my opinion though I still think it's easier to remove the bumper. It takes a few more nuts and bolts to do it but it makes it easier to get to that last mounting bolt in the front corner of the headlight. I'd rather fix an old style pop up headlight than mess with these things again. What a pain getting those lenses off.
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How did it turn out? I thought it was a difficult process and you had to put the headlight in the oven and heat it. Then pull it apart. I would just probably change the lens. My car is black and dont want to change the color of the inside.
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Cad vette, is it glue that you have to soften up in the oven ?

How do you reapply the adhesive?

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Old 07-03-2016, 05:20 PM
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How did it turn out? I thought it was a difficult process and you had to put the headlight in the oven and heat it. Then pull it apart. I would just probably change the lens. My car is black and dont want to change the color of the inside.
It turned out o.k. Remove everything you can from the headlight first. Take some tin foil and wrap it around the two remaining electrical connectors that you can't get off of the headlight to protect it from the heat cycles in the oven. Get the largest screwdriver you can find or buy one for good leverage. Some glues from the factory are harder than others from what I understand. I think I got the hardest kind. I heated my oven to 350 degrees, then shut it off and put the headlight in there on top of a two by four for 20 minutes. It took me approximately 6 to 8 tries with heat cycles to get each headlight apart. The black plastic case on mine got pretty chewed up prying it apart. Use a large needle nose to grasp the glue in the channel after you cut it and pry it out a bit. Then rotate the needle nose plyers to work it out of the channel using a scewdriver to pry up under it at the same time. Afterwards I took a file to the plastic casing and smoothed it out where it got chewed up by my very large screwdriver. I used Loctite PL 3X stronger premium to glue the new lens in place. it looks identical to the same type of glue the factory used. Good luck. It's a pain but it can be done and you will save a lot of money by doing it yourself.Name:  20160628_132152_Night.jpg
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Cad vette, is it glue that you have to soften up in the oven ?

How do you reapply the adhesive?

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Yes it is the glue that has to be softened up in the oven to enable you to pry the lens off of the housing. I applied the adhesive with a caulking gun. Used Loctite PL 3X premium adhesive that can be purchased at the hardware store. Looks pretty close to what the factory used.
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Another thought. I reused my rubber seals that go around the headlight housing that seals it to the fender and bumper. You may want to buy new ones depending of the condition of yours. I had one tear where it hooks on to the headlight. Used Gorilla glue to repair it. It kind of has a hard feel of foam when it dries. The I took some flat black spray paint to hide the repair. Not sure why I went that far for an area that you don't see afterwards, but you would never know it was repaired afterwards.
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Originally Posted by CadVette
Yes it is the glue that has to be softened up in the oven to enable you to pry the lens off of the housing. I applied the adhesive with a caulking gun. Used Loctite PL 3X premium adhesive that can be purchased at the hardware store. Looks pretty close to what the factory used.
Thank you for such detail... !!

One more question because I am afraid I will use to much glue and it will squeeze out and you will see it.

How did you know if you applied to much/not enough to glue ?

Dave
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Thank you for such detail... !!

One more question because I am afraid I will use to much glue and it will squeeze out and you will see it.

How did you know if you applied to much/not enough to glue ?

Dave

I applied enough glue inside the channel of the black housing to fill it up even to the top edges. That ended up being the perfect amount. After I squeezed the new lens on almost zero excess glue came out. Then you need to clamp the lens on and let it sit overnight. Put some blue masking tape on your new lenses before you clamp it to protect your lenses from the jaws of the clamps. I had some residue from the masking tape stay on afterwards. I cleaned it off with isopropol alcohol. It took some elbow grease to work it off but those new lenses now look great. One of my headlights had studs that hold the painted part of the headlight to the lens break off. I glued it back on with clear two part epoxy that i bought in two tubes at ACE hardware. I like this stuff over JB Weld because it dries clear. Funny thing is is my second headlight was held to the lens with screws instead of studs with nuts. A better design.
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After you let the new adhesive dry, it is a good idea to go add a clear silicone sealant on the outside where the glue meet the new lenses. It's an insurance to prevent any water or moisture into the lens, just in case there is a small gap of adhesive that may not be completely sealing, or an air bubble in the adhesive.
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Yep ,I know exactly how you feel

I just noticed my left headlight is " FLAKING" , looks like a bit of the coating on the lens is coming off , car is garaged and handled with kid gloves ......

been watching it to see if it get worse

Dave
If it's on the outside of the lens that coating can be sanded with 1000 grit sandpaper, then buffed with ultra fine compund till it's not noticeable. Pep Boys sells a sealant to spray on the lens to replace that coating. You can wach a YouTube video by Chris Fix on how this is done. Cheaper and easier that replacing new lenses for sure.
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Originally Posted by LV2TOUR
After you let the new adhesive dry, it is a good idea to go add a clear silicone sealant on the outside where the glue meet the new lenses. It's an insurance to prevent any water or moisture into the lens, just in case there is a small gap of adhesive that may not be completely sealing, or an air bubble in the adhesive.

You could do that if you wanted, but I don't think it's necessary and will probably make a mess. When you take the headlights apart you will notice there are two vent tubes on the back of the black plastic housing. So by design these headlights are not 100% sealed anyway. It's also fairly common for some condensation to form on the inside of the lenses on damp days which evaporates after the lights are turned on.
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Cadvette thanks for sharing , most helpful , now I have to buy the lenses

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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Cadvette thanks for sharing , most helpful , now I have to buy the lenses

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Not a problem. Always happy to help. Look at my ealrier reply above. You may be able to repair yours without new lenses. Feel free to ask again and I will try to help.
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My lenses went crackled in 2012 they were replaced under warranty. My lenses cracked almost overnight and I did not use glass cleaners, ammonia, or any other chemicals other than car wash soap. I have suspected that a recent wand=type car wash while traveling played a role because it coincided within days of the cracks appearing.
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Originally Posted by florida john
My lenses went crackled in 2012 they were replaced under warranty. My lenses cracked almost overnight and I did not use glass cleaners, ammonia, or any other chemicals other than car wash soap. I have suspected that a recent wand=type car wash while traveling played a role because it coincided within days of the cracks appearing.
Maybe they will replace it again as the new ones are defective. I live with mine but it bothers me it almost looks like hairline scratches on the inside. I wonder if similar style headlamps have these issues? I was thinking of adding a light tint over them but the manufacturer said it may cause cracking on the corvette headlamps. It's a pita job replacing the lens and expensive to get new headlamps . This can happen to the new headlamps.
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Too bad no one has come up with a solvent that could ease the removal of the lens while on the car. Taking the bumper off and what not, plus baking the lights in an oven seems to be a job not even the most dedicated enthusiast would relish.
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Originally Posted by enventr
Maybe they will replace it again as the new ones are defective. I live with mine but it bothers me it almost looks like hairline scratches on the inside. I wonder if similar style headlamps have these issues? I was thinking of adding a light tint over them but the manufacturer said it may cause cracking on the corvette headlamps. It's a pita job replacing the lens and expensive to get new headlamps . This can happen to the new headlamps.
So mine has the dreaded inside "haze", no cracks or crazing but bugged me terribly.
After talking with Lamin-X about their disclaimer of the GM warning about their film causing damage to the lenses, they said they have sold and had installed hundreds and had NO PROBLEMS.
Sales pitch ??? I don't know but I took the chance and installed the film in "Gun Smoke" which was a little darker than I thought but I don't drive at nite, I love the look and cant see the "haze" unless the lites are on. Oh I also have it on my fogs in yellow.
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