TexCorvette

If it can move a 4,100Lbs brick to 60 in 5.0sec and still in the 13s for the 1/4, imagine if they put it in a 3,000Lbs sports car, priced under their viper? The Vette would have some comp. then! Who knows what smaller SRT products it might show up in?

Anyhow, back to C6, do you all think the LS7 will be larger then 6.0, to make something over 450hp I would guess for next year? This HP war is getting exciting!


"The upgraded engine, which is being previewed in Pebble Beach this weekend, pumps the numbers up to 425 hp - 25 more than the new, sixth-generation Corvette, incidentally - and 420 lb-ft. "When we first went down the 6.1-liter path," admits Knott, "our targets were a lot lower." Not that he's complaining. The 6.1-liter version of the Hemi will help Chrysler dramatically differentiate the new 300C SRT-8 from the 5.7-liter version of the car." -The Car Connection

Thud

Seems like everybody and their aunt is getting 400+ hp these days!

jschindler

Like who? This has been an ongoing challenge I have been putting on the forum. Please name the cars & price with over 400hp available TODAY in the U.S. I think you will find the Corvette is still in pretty rare company - and expensive company. BTW, I'll start. The only vehicle in the Corvette's price range is the Dodge RAM STR-10.

***** in your court.

s420merc

Well the new SRT-8 300C also in the vette range there is MB and prob thats about it i would say.

Thud

Off the top of my head....

Mustang Cobra (available for the past 2 years) - 390 underrated hp

Cadillac CTS-V (available today)

'06 GTO (400hp and cheaper than the vette)

'06 SSR (390hp, using an LS2)

SRT-8 300C


GM seems to be using the vette engine in a lot more cars than they have historically. Then again there aren't any more F-bodies being produced.
The LS2 is going to be used in the SSR pickup truck, the GTO, probably the next CTS-V, and who knows what else. At least that means the parts should be cheaper.

jschindler

Okay - you have name two cars that are not available, and three others that are built by GM (isn't that who you are aiming this at!)

Jinx

It's the 05 GTO and SSR that will have 400hp, but neither is available today anyway.

The Mustang Cobra is discontinued. It's as available as 04 Z06s, and yet the 04 Z06 wasn't on the list... And -- oops! -- 390 isn't 400.

So the list TODAY looks like:

Cadillac CTS-V

Hmm.

.Jinx

Thud

I didn't mention the Z06 because it's a vette and we were supposed to be talking about cars "besides vettes."

The Cobra being discontinued has nothing to do with it-- it's one of the first cars that made 400hp "commonplace." Besides, the 04 Z06 is also "discontinued" but you feel it should have been included?

390 is close enough to 400hp in my book, given that it's most likely underrated. Give me a break. It's an LS2, the same engine as a C6 for cryin' out loud.


Naturally, if you take into account the used car market, 400 factory horsepower can be had for pretty cheap.


Now that everybody has successfully misinterpreted what my point was supposed to be, let me rephrase it.

400hp these days is no longer considered stratospherically high. 400hp is (or will soon be) available on many performance oriented cars, and even friggin TRUCKS. It used to be that you needed to buy an exotic to get that kind of power!

This is a GOOD thing!! Power is cheap!!!!

Matt Gruber

this is an exciting time!
i look at 0-60, since i can do that every time i drive.
So Motorweek and Dale Earnhart jr average 4.8 in a Z-51 c6,
and MotorTrend gets 5.1 in a $25k Automatic Mustang GT. I doubt my butt-o-meter could tell the difference. But with the Cobra due by summer, 500 HP is around the corner(maybe w/pully change, maybe not) Cobra will be under $40k, maybe closer to $35k
Magnum RT and the 425HP option is my 2nd choice. And without a scraping spoiler, they both be faster to the grocery store

flood

speaking of the supercharged cobra I wish GM would supercharge the Vette. I know, I know...they make as much power normally asperated. But not at 5,000ft where I live. Turbo charged cars keep their performace up here where N/A cars do not.

WhiteDiamond

I totally agree!! My wife and I had looked at putting a 300C on order a few months back....Then I started catching the SRT-8 rumors and we have one on order locally now. I am looking forward to transporting the family around in something big, roomy and powerful. What a change from the boring 4-doors the other makers bring us, unless you pay a hefty premium over the SRT-8s estimated base price. It puts a dent in my C6 timeline, but the family car is still a little more important for us right now.....However, the C6 should be up around 450hp or more by the time we buy, say 2008....

Todd

Lazerwolfe

I see your point. Even a Ferrari Testarossa didn't have 400hp back in the day.

Then:
Guy: 400HP??#!# Wow, I didn't know numbers could go that high!


Now:
Guy: 400HP? Not bad.

LS WON

You can carry alot more gravel and get there faster with that Dodge SRT truck.

LS WON

I wonder what the owners of LS-1 think now since they have ONLY 345 horses and they see the same engine and even more powerful engines going into other passenger cars, SUV'S and trucks?

LS WON

I drove a few GTO's the latest model what a joke. ..nothing to worry about just another big boring car like a Monte Carlo that can't get out of its own way. Now the 65 GTO that is a GTO.

David Lasic

Go to the tech section and look up Andy at A&A Corvette. He's already doing a blower. Take your C6 to him, he's a forum vendor, and you can stop wishing and start enjoying your new power!!

fdxpilot

Dream on, then look at this:


The 1968 GTO, Motor Trend's Car of the Year, goes spec to spec with Pontiac's new-for-2004 edition

-------------------1968 GTO -------------- 2004 GTO
Engine------- 400-cubic-inch V-8 -------- 346-cubic-inch V-8
Horsepower --360 @ 5400 rpm (SAE gross)- 350 @ 5200 rpm (SAE net)
Torque -------445 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm ------- 365 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Transmission --4-speed manual ------------ 6-speed manual
Curb weight, lb -------3650 --------------- 3725
0-60 mph, sec-- -------6.5 --------------- 5.3
1/4 mile, sec @ mph ---14.80 @ 96.00 ------ 13.62 @ 104.78
Braking, 60-0, ft -------150 ---------------- 120

LS WON

Lets take it to another level these numbers are not compatible not accurate as back then they used gross vs. todays net horses and torque. But the new GTO should outperform the old school. This is to be expected and it is called technology yes the times have changed but the character of the car is not of the same of the original GTO that they are trying to copy. In reference to the above information There is more to a car than just the numbers game two totally different feelings and styling. The new GTO just doesn't fit the musclecar or even look like a muscle car like the famed GTO name plate it is using. But in driving both 6 spd. and auto the handling and fun quotient wasn't there. Now wait till they come out with that Dodge Charger 4 doors and all how are they going to fill the shoes of a 1968 440 R/T Charger with a 727 torqueflite transmission. They tried that in the early 80's with the Shelby Charger..remember??? 2.2 liter zoom zoom zoom

Matt Gruber

i'd say they hit the nail on the head with the 300c & magnum rt. Don't dismiss the charger until you see it.

LS WON

That is the thing you don't see any 68 Chargers far and few rare