LBear

Just wanted to get a feel of what ZR1 owners are thinking of the new Z06 w/Z07 package?

Just like the Grand Sport is being sold as a "Z06 lite". GM dealers are touting the Z07 as a "ZR1 lite" car.

The Z07 package comes with the ZR1; brakes, rims, Magnetic Selective Ride Control, and the carbon fiber spoiler kit.

The price tag is a bit staggering:

MSRP $98,600

FIRSTC6Z06

Beautiful car but doesn't make sense right now. I'd either buy a Z06 for thousands less or step up to a (2010)ZR1 for not even a few thousand more?

People who buy a Z07 will get hit hard when they re-sell. I'm sure there will be used ZR1's reselling for the same price?

LBear

One can get a used ZR1, low mileage, for around $85k-$95k.

I believe GM is trying the same marketing gimmick with the Z07 as it did with the GS. It worked on the GS but I don't see it working for the Z07.

Dicecal

Bit pricey, and I don't know why they painted the carbon fiber parts black..would have been better to leave them plain carbon like on the ZR1. Having just gone from a Z06 to ZR1 myself, I do miss the transmission gearing in the Z06. Off the line, my old Z06 felt stronger and more torqey than my ZR1 does. Maybe it's just a perception issue, since the ZR1 is a little more refined and applies the power a bit smoother.

BillY2KFRC

The problem with this car is people are comparing MSRP of the Z07 to street price on a ZR1. Street price on a ZR1 may be 103k for a 3ZR, but you can get a Z07, CFZ, 3LZ for 81k street price. So there still IS a 20k+ difference between the two. People aren't comparing apples to apples in this thread.

For 86k you could have a new Z07 with a Katech (or any tuner) cam-only setup making over 600hp n/a with magnetic ride and carbon brakes. A bad *** car for the money. Now it won't be nearly as smooth to drive as a ZR1, but some people don't want that. Which I think is the whole point of the Z07 (besides profit, which may or may not happen, lol), to give Corvette customers more choices of exactly what they want from their Corvette.

One thing I do agree on is depreciation, these Z07 cars will be in the 50s in a couple years... I personally am looking forward to that!

Shurshot

The bad thing about the ZO7 is that they have not corrected the valvetrain problem and now for even more money spent you still have to worry about a valve going where it is not suppose to go

Other than that I like the car..... and if someone does not want to track the car they can save 10 large and skip the brake package.

Doug

jvp

Which also removes the bigger wheels, PS2 tires, and the RTD suspension. What you're talking about is a Z06 without the Z07 option.

jas

AFVETTE

GM seems so confused right now. I'm glad I'm not in the market for a NEW Corvette right now.

Tom

ratmotortom

It is actually a great time ! When have you ever had so many choices though !!!

Shurshot

They can still get the light weight carbon without the high price brakes that for many will be sufficient.

The bottom line is if GM wanted to make a track ready car they should made some improvements to the motor that would have increased its survivability rate.

That is the big problem with the ZO6 and not a 10 grand wheel and brake package that will always fall short of race dedicated parts no matter how good it is...... and it is good.


Doug

jvp

Well, I'm not sure I agree with your perspective here; the CFZ option will lower the car's center of gravity a tad bit, and lighten the car up a bit as well. It'll also, more importantly, add significant down force to the car, that'll never be appreciated unless on the track.

On the other hand, the Z07 option would be far more appreciated by "many", IMHO. With the RTD and better/softer/more-compliant PS2 tires, the ride characteristics of the car change dramatically over the "standard" Z06. With better handling and better comfort, as well as significantly better brakes, it's the Z07 option that'll be "sufficient" for many.

GM never has intended, nor never will intend the Z06 to be a "race dedicated" car. It's a GT that serves very well on the race track. Compromises were made in its design to favor the track more than street driving. But those compromises have been addressed by Z07. The motor is another story entirely.

jas

GMuffley

EuroRod

Not my $98k. For that kind of money, you can build a new Z06 that would trounce a ZR1.
But, there are always some (idiots??) out there that will buy it.

pcguy2u

All this points to GM getting ready for some kind of change to the C6 and they are using up parts that are/will be in excess inventory for the forseeable future - could have something to do with contractual obligations for part. As for the painted CF, it's cheaper to paint it than to use the very expensive clear coat - then they can say it has CF this and that........

BMadden

They're getting as carried away as Porsche with all the different variants of the 'Vette right now. It's too much IMHO.

GOLD72

There are several thing I have to point out. The picture, your listing of features and the MSRP are for a Z06 that has both Z07 and CFZ options. They are separate and can be ordered independently of each other. I would not call it a Z07. It is a Z06 with both Z07 and CFZ options.

Additionally at the MSRP stated, this Z06 is the full boat with leather wrap interior and Nav to boot. The comparable comparison would be to a ZR1 3ZR PEG which is now over $120k. There is no reason I know of why anyone will not be able to order a Z06 with Z07 & CFZ at a steep discount. This isn't the Limited Edition Carbon. A Z06 with Z07 only option is a possible alternative for me rather than a ZR1.

PS - I agree that a Z06 with Z07 & CFZ can be called ZR1 Lite.

Zee Freak

Sounds like they are getting ready for the C7. Remember the 1996, Grand Sport, & Collector Editions, and the 2004 C5s? While I know this isnt exactly the same thing. It is something GM usually does at the end of the current Gens life cycle.

GOLD72

That is a little harsh. It would be true only if someone actually paid full MSRP. Additionally, not everyone wants to violate their factory warranty by modding a car. I prefer to buy the best the factory can offer and leave it stock including the warranty for my DD. JMHO.

mcrams

As far as being painted black, we were told these pieces are the ones that were the ones that weren't perfect for use on the ZR1 thus paint them black and use them.

GOLD72

Exactly. Same erroneous comparisons were being made earlier this year but involving the Carbon Limited Edition which may fare better on pricing due to the fact it is intended to be limited production collector like the RF and WC 427 Z06s.