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Old 05-20-2012, 09:10 AM
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Last week I picked up my new 2012 Centennial Z06 with the carbon ceramic brakes. I upgaded from a 2008 Z06. These are my first carbon brakes. Is there a break-in procedure for these cabon brakes I should be following? I have tried maximum braking a couple of times and I find they are are not near as good as the steel rotors for stopping. Is this because I have to heat them up before they start to perform at their best? Do they require a break-in time period before they start working?
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Look at the Brake Burnishing sticky thread.
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And your owners manual..
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Great advice!!!
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Originally Posted by Morrisman
Last week I picked up my new 2012 Centennial Z06 with the carbon ceramic brakes. I upgaded from a 2008 Z06. These are my first carbon brakes. Is there a break-in procedure for these cabon brakes I should be following? I have tried maximum braking a couple of times and I find they are are not near as good as the steel rotors for stopping. Is this because I have to heat them up before they start to perform at their best? Do they require a break-in time period before they start working?
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Look at the Brake Burnishing sticky thread.
Here's the direct link: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...urnishing.html
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Thanks guys,

Being new to the ZR1 forum, I hadn't noticed the sticky for braking. And I looked closer in my owners manual and found the break-in write-up.

Before the break-in, my carbon brakes were so poor I couldn't even trigger the anti-lock.

I found a quiet highway and did the break-in, Wow. After about 7 stop and goes, the brakes were already amazing. I triggered the anti-lock with very little pedal effort.

Now I am truly impressed with these babies.
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Originally Posted by Morrisman
Thanks guys,

Being new to the ZR1 forum, I hadn't noticed the sticky for braking. And I looked closer in my owners manual and found the break-in write-up.

Before the break-in, my carbon brakes were so poor I couldn't even trigger the anti-lock.

I found a quiet highway and did the break-in, Wow. After about 7 stop and goes, the brakes were already amazing. I triggered the anti-lock with very little pedal effort.

Now I am truly impressed with these babies.
Did you follow the procedure that was linked above or just stop after 7 attempts? You need to do all 50 stops to burnish them properly.
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Did you follow the procedure that was linked above or just stop after 7 attempts? You need to do all 50 stops to burnish them properly.
I did about 15 stop and goes from 110mph to 20mph. The pads now show a bit of white at the edges.

Think this is enough? how can I tell if not?
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there's two things here: one is embedding the pad/rotors, which is what you did, and there's burnishing which is meant to avoid brake fade during racing. Burnishing isn't required unless you will track the car, embedding should be done on all brakes to ensure best performance for day to day driving.

doing a quick online research seems to point that embedding is also called burnishing...but the sticky talks about something else that is happening...

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Originally Posted by mirage2991
there's two things here: one is embedding the pad/rotors, which is what you did, and there's burnishing which is meant to avoid brake fade during racing. Burnishing isn't required unless you will track the car, embedding should be done on all brakes to ensure best performance for day to day driving.

doing a quick online research seems to point that embedding is also called burnishing...but the sticky talks about something else that is happening...
The burnishing procedure is recommended for all driving conditions. GM does also recommend the additional track burnishing procedure if the car will be used for HPDE's or other perfomance driving.

I can tell you that even on the street, the brakes are so much better after performing the burnishing procedure.

According to GM, if you can not finish the prodedure completely, then you should do it over.
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Originally Posted by mirage2991
doing a quick online research seems to point that embedding is also called burnishing...but the sticky talks about something else that is happening...
There shouldn't be any "bedding" (embedding) with carbon ceramic brakes. Carbon ceramic rotors should stay silky smooth with no material transferred to them.

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so do I do the 50 hard stops, yes or no? If my plans are to only ever drive it on the street. Currently I am NOT impressed with the CCB, they seem no better then the steel versions I have had on other cars (except of course a PCCB porsche I drove, now THOSE were kick *** CCB's). I am guessing I might need to do this 50 hard stops to get it to that level of kick-***-ness?

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by 2002_Viper_GTS_ACR
so do I do the 50 hard stops, yes or no? If my plans are to only ever drive it on the street. Currently I am NOT impressed with the CCB, they seem no better then the steel versions I have had on other cars (except of course a PCCB porsche I drove, now THOSE were kick *** CCB's). I am guessing I might need to do this 50 hard stops to get it to that level of kick-***-ness?

Thanks!

Jon
Yes, you need to do the full procedure - it does make a noticeable improvement.
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Originally Posted by CrystalRedZ07
Yes, you need to do the full procedure - it does make a noticeable improvement.
I'll do it this weekend, thanks much!
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Where do you guys do this procedure? I suspect I'd be arrested if I did it 50 times.. I can't do it at the track, either; do people go to some special place I don't know about?

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