2012 z06 3lz carbon
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Yea the bank told me nada was 62,000 with just the magnetic ride control and it wouldn't let them add all the other options so I'm thinking it's worth 65k and I'm in no hurry to sell it. The right person will buy it
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Originally Posted by Jeremyj7
Yea the bank told me nada was 62,000 with just the magnetic ride control and it wouldn't let them add all the other options so I'm thinking it's worth 65k and I'm in no hurry to sell it. The right person will buy it
Edit: Just so anybody searching this car realizes this guy is a DB - 1G1YL2DE6C5109834
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So change the price in your original post. This will not go well for you if you don't.
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In the guy's defense, he has the right to change his mind. For buyers and sellers: You need a signed purchase agreement and a deposit in order to have "a deal". Otherwise it is worthless; talk is cheap.
As to getting $65k, good luck with that.
As to getting $65k, good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by etekberg
In the guy's defense, he has the right to change his mind. For buyers and sellers: You need a signed purchase agreement and a deposit in order to have "a deal". Otherwise it is worthless; talk is cheap.
As to getting $65k, good luck with that.
As to getting $65k, good luck with that.
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And my statement does not embody anything sad about America. If anything yours does. Contract law has been around for a long time in this country!
Let me put it this way, what if a buyer says to a seller "I'm going to drive to your house tomorrow and buy your car", and that is it. The buyer then doesn't show up. Did the buyer break a contract? Does the seller have any recourse against the buyer?
The answer to both is no. The reverse is also true for the seller.
How many times have you bought a house or a piece of land without any paperwork? Why would you treat a car that cost as much as a cheap house wildly different.
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Nice car and the price is fair I'm sure it will sale
2012 z06 3lz package carbon brakes supersonic blue 9k miles still under factory warranty mint condition 901-461-7470 $65,000[/QUOTE]
2012 z06 3lz package carbon brakes supersonic blue 9k miles still under factory warranty mint condition 901-461-7470 $65,000[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by etekberg
I was wondering if someone would catch that. Technically that is true, but extremely difficult to prove. However, if no money changed hands, you don't have a contract. There has to be consideration for a valid contract!
And my statement does not embody anything sad about America. If anything yours does. Contract law has been around for a long time in this country!
Let me put it this way, what if a buyer says to a seller "I'm going to drive to your house tomorrow and buy your car", and that is it. The buyer then doesn't show up. Did the buyer break a contract? Does the seller have any recourse against the buyer?
The answer to both is no. The reverse is also true for the seller.
How many times have you bought a house or a piece of land without any paperwork? Why would you treat a car that cost as much as a cheap house wildly different.
And my statement does not embody anything sad about America. If anything yours does. Contract law has been around for a long time in this country!
Let me put it this way, what if a buyer says to a seller "I'm going to drive to your house tomorrow and buy your car", and that is it. The buyer then doesn't show up. Did the buyer break a contract? Does the seller have any recourse against the buyer?
The answer to both is no. The reverse is also true for the seller.
How many times have you bought a house or a piece of land without any paperwork? Why would you treat a car that cost as much as a cheap house wildly different.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
Last edited by dsevo; 10-24-2016 at 02:17 PM.
#32
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I'm not interested in getting into a legal argument with you. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bottom line, the seller agreed to a deal and said he would send payment instructions after the phone call. They never came, and he simply went radio silent, ignoring calls, texts, and emails. That's a pathetic way to operate, despite whatever BS excuse you can come up with for him. Period.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
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I'm not interested in getting into a legal argument with you. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bottom line, the seller agreed to a deal and said he would send payment instructions after the phone call. They never came, and he simply went radio silent, ignoring calls, texts, and emails. That's a pathetic way to operate, despite whatever BS excuse you can come up with for him. Period.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
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I'm not interested in getting into a legal argument with you. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bottom line, the seller agreed to a deal and said he would send payment instructions after the phone call. They never came, and he simply went radio silent, ignoring calls, texts, and emails. That's a pathetic way to operate, despite whatever BS excuse you can come up with for him. Period.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
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I'm not interested in getting into a legal argument with you. You're arguing for the sake of arguing. Bottom line, the seller agreed to a deal and said he would send payment instructions after the phone call. They never came, and he simply went radio silent, ignoring calls, texts, and emails. That's a pathetic way to operate, despite whatever BS excuse you can come up with for him. Period.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
He won't get anywhere near $65k for the car anyway.
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Originally Posted by DOOKEY
I can understand your side of it as nobody wants to purchase anything where the deal seems fishy. If the deal goes South wouldn't you rather treat it as a blessing in disguise?
Originally Posted by Jeremyj7
And it will not go anywhere it will sit there and look pretty in my garage 65k or close or I'll keep it I wasn't selling because I need $ I have plenty of that
#38
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Oh definitely, 100%! Just wanted to post the situation on here to save someone else the hassle. I value my time, and I'm not a fan of people wasting it.
Loved hearing how rich you are during our phone discussion. You're supposedly so wealthy, or "rich" as you called it, but you're willing to **** all over your word for potentially $10k. Real class act. I'm just relieved you showed your true colors before money changed hands.
Loved hearing how rich you are during our phone discussion. You're supposedly so wealthy, or "rich" as you called it, but you're willing to **** all over your word for potentially $10k. Real class act. I'm just relieved you showed your true colors before money changed hands.
That being said, from my experience, 'legit buyers' will call and discuss the car in proper format: it's build history, the car's rarities, total production numbers, etc., and not make the conversation 100% price related.
Moral of story is that it's quite amazing to me how people spend hours upon hours on forums and retail sites - let alone deal with frustrations as this post has shown - trying to scalp or save a few thousand bucks here and there rather than getting on with it and buying a damn car!
*I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there still trying to buy the 2005/2006 FGT for 12 years at 160K. Ain't happening.
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Originally Posted by corvettemonster
Your brother out in Cali had a great opportunity to buy my flawless REAL 2011 SSB Carbon Edition (with an additional 75K mile bumper-bumper warranty) for $54,500. But, from what I remember, he was quite arrogant and said, "Well when you're ready to take 50K, let me know" after my mentioning to him I was firm on my price. I told him it was VERY fairly priced and he again, replied, "call me when you're at 50K" - I just simply replied that he wouldn't be hearing from me. My car sold the next day at full asking price.
That being said, from my experience, 'legit buyers' will call and discuss the car in proper format: it's build history, the car's rarities, total production numbers, etc., and not make the conversation 100% price related.
Moral of story is that it's quite amazing to me how people spend hours upon hours on forums and retail sites - let alone deal with frustrations as this post has shown - trying to scalp or save a few thousand bucks here and there rather than getting on with it and buying a damn car!
*I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there still trying to buy the 2005/2006 FGT for 12 years at 160K. Ain't happening.
That being said, from my experience, 'legit buyers' will call and discuss the car in proper format: it's build history, the car's rarities, total production numbers, etc., and not make the conversation 100% price related.
Moral of story is that it's quite amazing to me how people spend hours upon hours on forums and retail sites - let alone deal with frustrations as this post has shown - trying to scalp or save a few thousand bucks here and there rather than getting on with it and buying a damn car!
*I'm sure there are plenty of guys out there still trying to buy the 2005/2006 FGT for 12 years at 160K. Ain't happening.
And let's be real here, the the ZO6 and FGT shouldn't be mentioned in the same post. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
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You're half right. Your car came up at the beginning of his search, and at the time his budget was $50K. Also, your car needed tires if I remember correctly. I called and discussed the merits of your car with you, and after doing so, he called about price. He made an offer less than 5% under ask, and that seems pretty normal to me. Just because he wasn't willing to pay your full asking price doesn't make him arrogant. Frankly, I didn't get a real good vibe from our phone discussion, and I'm a believer in buying the seller as much as the car. After your car sold, I told him he needed to be more realistic on price if he wanted a clean Z07, hence the reason he immediately offered full ask for the OPs car.
And let's be real here, the the ZO6 and FGT shouldn't be mentioned in the same post. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
And let's be real here, the the ZO6 and FGT shouldn't be mentioned in the same post. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Not sure why you 'didn't get a good vibe' as I answered every one of your questions cordially and was open to discussing the history of the Carbon Edition. If you're 'buying 'the seller', then a 20-30 minute phone conversation - like the buyer of my car and I had - would've revealed more about me than a 2 minute conversation you and I had.
The Ford GT was used as a reference to compare that low production cars - as the Carbon Edition - tend to have a hard floor and a well studied car enthusiast would recognize a heck of deal when they saw one. Could be that you're younger brother is just now learning about cars, which is absolutely fine! Good luck in your/his search.
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