YSi or TTix .. Street Car??
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YSi or TTix .. Street Car??
Hey guys,
I know this question was asked before .. I tried finding the thread for it but I couldnt find it ... Anyway, I'm currently working on a forged 427 block .. In the beginning I wanted a YSi kit .. Then I thought which one would live longer?!! :-/ .. I asked the garage I'm getting my work done at .. He recommended the turbos from start but I kinda went with the cheaper method .. But now I kinda want the TTix kit 65 mm head units "I think"
So do u guys think I should go ahead ?!!! The difference is huge >_<
Thanks
-Moe
I know this question was asked before .. I tried finding the thread for it but I couldnt find it ... Anyway, I'm currently working on a forged 427 block .. In the beginning I wanted a YSi kit .. Then I thought which one would live longer?!! :-/ .. I asked the garage I'm getting my work done at .. He recommended the turbos from start but I kinda went with the cheaper method .. But now I kinda want the TTix kit 65 mm head units "I think"
So do u guys think I should go ahead ?!!! The difference is huge >_<
Thanks
-Moe
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The TTs are more expensive, initially, but they have tend to have the most up-side potential and are total torque monsters.
I've had centrifugal and positive displacement superchargers as well as twin turbos. Turbos are the most expensive, but the most fun, at least for me.
I've had centrifugal and positive displacement superchargers as well as twin turbos. Turbos are the most expensive, but the most fun, at least for me.
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You own a Z06. Your building a forged engine... Comparing the difference between a TT and S/C with your overall investment, is a "Bit" more money.
It's like you spend $20K on a home sound system, but you don't get the right speaker wires. That inexpensive wire will ruin the whole $20K sound experience.
A Forged Z06 deserves a nice TT. You won't be sorry!
It's like you spend $20K on a home sound system, but you don't get the right speaker wires. That inexpensive wire will ruin the whole $20K sound experience.
A Forged Z06 deserves a nice TT. You won't be sorry!
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I do however fully support the TT car idea. It's nice being able to spool the turbos without down-shifting.
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I have had both Supercharged and TT cars so did the guy who posted above me Hey Drew
If I were to do it all over again, it will again be TT. As said above, no downshifting to spool, total toque monsters and a completely different level of fun.
If I were to do it all over again, it will again be TT. As said above, no downshifting to spool, total toque monsters and a completely different level of fun.
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thanks .. I'm afraid of tech problems with the turbos.. While these problems are less common with the blower kits.
The TTs are more expensive, initially, but they have tend to have the most up-side potential and are total torque monsters.
I've had centrifugal and positive displacement superchargers as well as twin turbos. Turbos are the most expensive, but the most fun, at least for me.
I've had centrifugal and positive displacement superchargers as well as twin turbos. Turbos are the most expensive, but the most fun, at least for me.
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True ..
Well the engine is not yet back from the shop .. The YSi kit is in the box waiting for installation .. But I told the garage to wait
thanks .. But which one caused less trouble ?
thank you .. Definitely thinking about the turbo
Well the engine is not yet back from the shop .. The YSi kit is in the box waiting for installation .. But I told the garage to wait
You own a Z06. Your building a forged engine... Comparing the difference between a TT and S/C with your overall investment, is a "Bit" more money.
It's like you spend $20K on a home sound system, but you don't get the right speaker wires. That inexpensive wire will ruin the whole $20K sound experience.
A Forged Z06 deserves a nice TT. You won't be sorry!
It's like you spend $20K on a home sound system, but you don't get the right speaker wires. That inexpensive wire will ruin the whole $20K sound experience.
A Forged Z06 deserves a nice TT. You won't be sorry!
thank you .. Definitely thinking about the turbo
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they're quite you say?!!!
That's no fun
But still .. My concern is engine life, with nooooo problems .. The best part about the supercharger .. It's cheap and would give me the same amount of power .. Kinda the same
But I love how the turbos pull with full throttle
That's no fun
But still .. My concern is engine life, with nooooo problems .. The best part about the supercharger .. It's cheap and would give me the same amount of power .. Kinda the same
But I love how the turbos pull with full throttle
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I would say think about it 3 times before you buy the supercharger. You will not be disappointment with the TT.
I just installed TVS2300 with 8psi of boost + Long tube 1'' 7/8 not cats and i was thinking i will reach the 550 whp and tq 580 but i couldn't, i reached 509whp and tq 545 i know the Cinterfugel power is different than TVS.
But now the funny will start. I just ordered my TTIX 6265 billet + 3'' downpipes will turn the boost to 10psi + Meth and camshaft from V. Speed by Shawn and RSI stage 3 fuel system kit. I would love to see the whp at 700+ and wtq 700+. Once i get everything done will post the result.
Khaleefa.
I just installed TVS2300 with 8psi of boost + Long tube 1'' 7/8 not cats and i was thinking i will reach the 550 whp and tq 580 but i couldn't, i reached 509whp and tq 545 i know the Cinterfugel power is different than TVS.
But now the funny will start. I just ordered my TTIX 6265 billet + 3'' downpipes will turn the boost to 10psi + Meth and camshaft from V. Speed by Shawn and RSI stage 3 fuel system kit. I would love to see the whp at 700+ and wtq 700+. Once i get everything done will post the result.
Khaleefa.
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You can have problems with any power adder. The problems vary depending on the combo. For example, with superchargers the issues can be things like bad/broken tensioners, idlers, pulleys, etc. With turbos it's things like hoses getting lose, heat, etc.
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My vote goes to YSI..... Turbos are great, but there is alot more that can go wrong with them. As ive said in the past, if someone would R&D and build a serious SINGLE turbo setup for these cars I would be all over it. But twins is just a hassle in my book.
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You have no increased possibility of losing a belt, and if the kit uses high quality hoses and fittings, leaks are mostly nonexistent in both the fluid and charge air systems.
I ran my TT vette for a solid 50,000 boosted miles, and it was flawless.
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How much power are you shooting for? I am at 850rwhp with my forged 427, YSI, Alky and supporting mods. That is damn plenty for drag radials and most cars on the street. In my experience the blower cars hit harder off the bat then turbo cars.
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I think for the blower you have that's the max gain would reach with that set up for an LS7( I could be wrong )
you could of got more with an A&A kit with a cam .. but still an issue with high compression
I know I wouldn't be disappointed but the freakin' deference in cost between the two
Thanks Khaleefa
I'm looking forward to see your results .. hopefully good numbers
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I'm pretty sure the problems would be minimal in both scenarios
cause I'll have the work done at an experienced garage
Hmmmm .. A lot has been said but most of the guys are with TTix's
this is hard
Well .. I guess that's covered .. I'm having my work in an awesome garage in DE
.. thanks for the positive reply
the power is around what you're pulling maybe a bit more .. we'll see
Well .. the YSi is awesome hands down .. but my concern is the extra load the belt adds on the motor
Order .. Order .. One more thing I forgot to mention !!
Once I'm done with the build its going to be shipped overseas
where the weather is going to be a blazing 110 F in the summer and a nice cool weather in winters .. plus humidity in the air
So if any thought how would that affect the over all performance
again considering the car to have this much power ... obviously it not a daily driver
I kinda planed it all with a big radiator and electric water pump and a thermostat ... so yeah I wanted to share that info as well
and thank you all
Sincerely
-Moe
you could of got more with an A&A kit with a cam .. but still an issue with high compression
I know I wouldn't be disappointed but the freakin' deference in cost between the two
Thanks Khaleefa
I'm looking forward to see your results .. hopefully good numbers
I would say think about it 3 times before you buy the supercharger. You will not be disappointment with the TT.
I just installed TVS2300 with 8psi of boost + Long tube 1'' 7/8 not cats and i was thinking i will reach the 550 whp and tq 580 but i couldn't, i reached 509whp and tq 545 i know the Cinterfugel power is different than TVS.
But now the funny will start. I just ordered my TTIX 6265 billet + 3'' downpipes will turn the boost to 10psi + Meth and camshaft from V. Speed by Shawn and RSI stage 3 fuel system kit. I would love to see the whp at 700+ and wtq 700+. Once i get everything done will post the result.
Khaleefa.
I just installed TVS2300 with 8psi of boost + Long tube 1'' 7/8 not cats and i was thinking i will reach the 550 whp and tq 580 but i couldn't, i reached 509whp and tq 545 i know the Cinterfugel power is different than TVS.
But now the funny will start. I just ordered my TTIX 6265 billet + 3'' downpipes will turn the boost to 10psi + Meth and camshaft from V. Speed by Shawn and RSI stage 3 fuel system kit. I would love to see the whp at 700+ and wtq 700+. Once i get everything done will post the result.
Khaleefa.
I'm pretty sure the problems would be minimal in both scenarios
cause I'll have the work done at an experienced garage
this is hard
I have to respectfully completely disagree with that statement.
You have no increased possibility of losing a belt, and if the kit uses high quality hoses and fittings, leaks are mostly nonexistent in both the fluid and charge air systems.
I ran my TT vette for a solid 50,000 boosted miles, and it was flawless.
You have no increased possibility of losing a belt, and if the kit uses high quality hoses and fittings, leaks are mostly nonexistent in both the fluid and charge air systems.
I ran my TT vette for a solid 50,000 boosted miles, and it was flawless.
Well .. the YSi is awesome hands down .. but my concern is the extra load the belt adds on the motor
Order .. Order .. One more thing I forgot to mention !!
Once I'm done with the build its going to be shipped overseas
where the weather is going to be a blazing 110 F in the summer and a nice cool weather in winters .. plus humidity in the air
So if any thought how would that affect the over all performance
again considering the car to have this much power ... obviously it not a daily driver
I kinda planed it all with a big radiator and electric water pump and a thermostat ... so yeah I wanted to share that info as well
and thank you all
Sincerely
-Moe
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My experience is totally opposite of yours. All things essentially equal and same HP actually Turbos hit so hard it's not even a comparison due to torque they produce down low. Not to mention the benefits of no loss in power at higher altitude, total sleeper and zero belt issues.