Slo-Poc

As the title says who makes a completely ready to go in your car fuel kit. I'm looking for one that will cover me all the way to 1000whp. I'm hoping this thread narrows down some options for people looking for that coverage when they are making up to 1000whp and want a solid fuel setup.


Option 1; I like the single intank a1000 and eliminator but a lot of vettes and camaros have been having both burn up on them at a more frequent rate than I would like to see. But still a good option

Option 2; twin or triple pumps with hanger but which pumps and which hanger and how many... I've had a twin intank before and didn't give me any problem but not setup for 1000 whp.

Any info on complete kits or combos that are not to pieced together will help a bunch thanks.



Ps I have searched and only get fragment of info from so many different threads.

Detoxx03

Hopefully this thread will yield great results. Our builds are gonna be similar so it should narrow down a lot and also give people in our position on the future a better path.

Corvette-Chris

I'd skip the Eliminator setup. Too many people have problems with it. DP makes a really nice fuel system or RSI's bracket/kit with 2 or 3 Deatschwerks 300+ pumps will suffice and give you room to grow. Just don't forget good injectors

Detoxx03

What does the DP fuel system consist of?

Z06-TT

i say surge tank is the easiest. then you never have to touch the factory pump system

Unreal

ECS has a nice kit. DP has an awesome kit but it is big money.

I have the RSI kit, not bad but not great. Ragin racing looks like a nice hanger kit if you want to go in tank. I wish I just did an external. Dropping the tanks is a pain in the ***.

Slo-Poc

I think the RR kit is only a twin in tank hanger?.. what two pumps would I have to run to do a twin in tank that would support 1000whp and im guessing it would have to be return?

Corvette-Chris

You should do a return system with a nice regulator regardless.

From what I understand, the aeromotive or DW 340/300+ pumps will support it.

DP's kit uses a Magnafuel external, IIRC.

DSteck

My Eliminator works great.

turbotuner20v

Dallas Performance or ECS offer complete solutions that work well. I built my own using the same external setup and posted most of the parts, but it sounds like you don't want to piece it together.

narfdanarf

twin walbro 400's and a nice return setup like ^ said.

ajrothm

I am running an in tank Lingenfelter 225lph(@43psi) with the Racetronix hot wire kit using the stock fuel line going to a fuel log. I also have an external Bosch 044 with a -8an feed coming directly from the bottom of the tank and running to the fuel log. I have a KB BAP on the Bosch.

Then from the log we have two feeds to the fuel rail and a Fuel labs 1:1 regulator going back through a -6an return line to the tank.

We haven't dynoed mine yet but this is the same fuel pump combo that BlownBluez06 made 1060rwhp with...

Ofcourse this is along with a bunch of meth.. I'm confident I have enough for 1000rwhp and best of all, cruising around on a single in tank pump like a stock car..

I think this is the most reliable combo for a daily driven cruiser... We'll soon see how much it supports.

turbotuner20v

I'm also a fan of the 'stock' in tank pump and a large external. Out of boost the in tank pump does all the work just like a normal car, but in boost the external kicks in and pulls from the back of the tank.

The double and triple pumps can do something similar, only 1 pump runs and then the other 2 kick on in boost, but all of the pumps are in the tank. This can make it hard to diagnose issues if only 1 of the 2, or 2 of the 3 pumps is running, and if you need to replace a pump or fix anything, dropping the tank is required.

The solution that seems to be hit or miss is the large single in tank pump, like the eliminator. A special pump speed controller is required to keep the pump from heating up the fuel too much, and the issues people have with this pump are likely related to setting this up correctly. DSteck and a few others seem to be running the pump w/o issue (even on non-e85 fuel)

There is a 4th option that doesn't get discussed much, and that is a surge tank setup. LG offers one version, and another vendor is about to release a kit too I think. It seems that some people are able to run the stock fuel pump feeding into the surge tank to avoid dropping the tanks for any reason (plugging/replacing regulators, ect.). Depending on the level of fit and finish on the newly released kit, this may be something that takes a bit more work than the established kits.

DOUG @ ECS

I may be ECS biased, but I prefer our set up.


http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=302


Stage 2 with the stock regulator block off would work great for your needs. No noise, simple, effective, proven.

0Louis @ LG Motorsports

1000whp is hard to nail down, because its a moving target. What pumps, and what pressure, what injectors? Meth? No meth?

Lots of variables.

twin intank pumps are done at 1000, maybe even less. The stock plus bosch setup is nice, and its simple.

The surgetanks are just pricey, but they work.

the aeromotive stuff doesnt have a bucket, so slosh can be an issue on low tanks...

DSteck

HoB Eliminator kit with ID1000s is good for 1000whp without breaking a sweat. I can personally verify this. I don't have sloshing issues either, and I've run the system low enough to trigger the Low Fuel warning. I don't act like a dumbass at that point at make WOT pulls though... Just go fill up.

My buddy's TT 427 5th gen Camaro just made ~1150rwhp on an in-tank Eliminator with ID1000s and pump 93 octane + meth. He drove the car to Kansas City and back without issue.



If I was going to do it all over again... I'd do a custom surge tank.

Unreal

If I had to do it all over again I would leave the car near stock and modify my mustang.

Dropping the tanks is a pain in the ***. I've done it 6-7 times now and have to do it again to get the transfer tube to start working.

Slo-Poc

I like this kit. What else would I need? What tells the pump to come on and provide xx amount of fuel without it just running wide open when you get into boost? Thanks or the info the more the better

turbotuner20v

Hobbs switch controls when the pump comes on under boost.

The pump does just run wide open and you use a regulator up by your fuel rail and a return setup to send the extra fuel back to the tank.

I think both of those are included w/ the kit.

Detoxx03

I'm liking the ECS setup as well. Decisions decisions.